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re: Realistic Improvement
Posted on 11/30/20 at 6:01 pm to LSU5508
Posted on 11/30/20 at 6:01 pm to LSU5508
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To be honest i'm worried less about my score and more about consistency. I'd love to get to the point where I step up to the ball and have a realistic idea of where it was going to go plus on minus a few yards short or long or left or right. Just developing a consistent repeatable swing is the goal.
Tell your instructor to give you no more than 2 swing thoughts. You can really only practice these changes 1 or maybe 2 things at a time. If you focus on 1 or 2 changes you will make them. That may bring out other "worms" as my instructor calls them. But you can slowly chip away at those.
With a few thoughts you will probably be more consistent. But, all it takes is a few bad shots for you to lose confidence. You have to work on the mental part of the game too. If I am warming up and struggle with my swing, I hit partial shots to get a feel but also calm my nerves. One negative thought will completely derail your golf swing.
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Posted on 11/30/20 at 6:19 pm to makersmark1
This thread is making me miss those days where improvement was quick and obvious. When I first started playing about 7 years ago, it was truly fun from month to month and year to year seeing my handicap drop from 25 to the single digits. Even going from 9 to 1 was a great feeling.
But that plateau is real and frustrating. I’ve been stuck between 1 and 5 for the last 2 years or so. I’m so close to being scratch but then I lose one piece of my game and here come a few 80+ scores. I can get those streaks in the low 70s but they’re not long lasting.
Enjoy this part of it fellas.
But that plateau is real and frustrating. I’ve been stuck between 1 and 5 for the last 2 years or so. I’m so close to being scratch but then I lose one piece of my game and here come a few 80+ scores. I can get those streaks in the low 70s but they’re not long lasting.
Enjoy this part of it fellas.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 7:11 pm to LSU5508
I played 4 years of high school golf and got better with each season. Never had a coach, self taught all the way. I really studied and learned what worked best for me. My best golf came after high school when I lived and worked down in Bluewater Bay. I would stop and spend an hour a day on the practice green and hit a bucket every day.
Now I play about 6-12 rounds a year and shoot about 76+- 4 strokes. about the worst I shoot is 79/80 and if I am hitting it well I can take it down to par. I am starting to play more again so it will be interesting if I can still improve now.
Now I play about 6-12 rounds a year and shoot about 76+- 4 strokes. about the worst I shoot is 79/80 and if I am hitting it well I can take it down to par. I am starting to play more again so it will be interesting if I can still improve now.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 7:14 pm to Warfarer
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Bluewater Bay.
I’ve played that course a few times while down inDestin. I imagine it was pretty great back in the day. I think it’s down to 18 or 27 holes now.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 7:23 pm to CoachChappy
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I’ve played that course a few times while down inDestin. I imagine it was pretty great back in the day. I think it’s down to 18 or 27 holes now.
Im not sure. It used to be 36 holes but the website is listing it as 18 now. Not sure what 18 they got rid of or sold for real estate. I used to play that course because it set up great for me, long irons off the tee and short irons in. Driver was a tough play on most of the 9s due to tight doglegs weaving around the houses. It was truly a resort back 20 years ago and stayed in great shape. They were building the Fred Couples course when I lived down there.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 7:31 pm to ell_13
Got down to a 4 when I was in my mid 20s. Didnt knowcwhat I was doing but got the ball in the hole quickly. Slowed down with kids but started back seriously about 2 years ago and hovered around 12. Have been taking a few lessons, completely changed my swing and am about an 8-9. Nowhere near as long any more and average about 82, but can go low mid 70s. Cant shoot over 90 anymore on a bad day. I'm a better golfer now but losing 30-40 yds off tee limits me. Fitty yo
Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:55 pm to Scottforeverlsu
My improvement hasn't come with big swing changes or even lengthy practice time. Mine has come with rounds played. I got better in college working at a golf course because I was able to play a ton of rounds. My skillsets haven't changed a lot since then, but even though I play less and practice way less, my scores are as good or better because of the rounds I have under my belt. The more rounds of golf you play, the better you get at golf.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 10:11 pm to LSU5508
I don’t think people who can’t consistently play in the 80s be allowed on the course. Stay on the range and figure your shite out before fricking up the course and pace of play.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 10:13 pm to bmarcs82
Well I hope you’re ready for 99.9% of all golf courses to go out of business then.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 10:36 pm to LSU5508
Won’t affect me at all
Posted on 12/1/20 at 7:27 am to bmarcs82
That's an unbelievably bad take. As king of bad takes on this board, that's worse than anything I've posted.
"Don't schedule the 8:00 am tee time Saturday morning and play it down from the tips and putt everything out if you aren't good at golf" is a fair take. But you can be bad and play fast. You can be bad and take care of the course.
But what's worse is that it's basically impossible for you can't get into the 80s without ever stepping on a course.
"Don't schedule the 8:00 am tee time Saturday morning and play it down from the tips and putt everything out if you aren't good at golf" is a fair take. But you can be bad and play fast. You can be bad and take care of the course.
But what's worse is that it's basically impossible for you can't get into the 80s without ever stepping on a course.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 7:30 am to LSU5508
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Just really wondering how many of you were able to shave a solid number of strokes off your game or if the 70's is something you just either have or you don't.
Let me put it to you in the most confusing way possible...You get out of the game, what you put into it!!
If you own every novelty training aid, you will have a novelty swing with no discernible intent on using it on the golf course. Even if you have the most beautiful swing but no course awareness you will still shoot in the 80's +.
Since you are taking lessons, do yourself a favor and ask questions about how to use your swing in certain situations on the course, bunkers, pine straw, in a divot...etc.
Do yourself the biggest favor and PLAY GOLF...do not become a driving range PGA Tour Pro, use your new swing and play to know how you react with that particular swing in golf course situations.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 8:07 am to LSU5508
I got down to a nine in college. My takeaways from that:
- I cannot place enough value on the amount of time you have to spend swinging the club to really dial down your scores. You really have to play to get better (or at least I did)
- Where I noticed the biggest impact was improving my short game. I’d go to the pitch and putt at the LSU course a few nights a week and practice hitting those shots with different clubs. A half swing sand wedge vs a full swing 60, what if I open the face, low roll vs high flops, etc. Being able to place the ball near the hole makes it a lot easier to hole putts
- A big part was mental. If you’re a 110 player, eliminate 10 bad shots per round and you’re breaking 100. If you’re trying to shoot par, you basically get 1 bad shot per side if you’re lucky. Just having to understand how you want to play a hole and adjusting your strategy based on execution and conditions really takes a toll on you.
My goal was always to get to a point where I played well enough to have fun and enjoy myself, and that’s basically where I am now. I knew I didn’t have the time to invest to keep my game at that level, but I can play well enough to not embarrass myself and occasionally turn in a really solid round.
- I cannot place enough value on the amount of time you have to spend swinging the club to really dial down your scores. You really have to play to get better (or at least I did)
- Where I noticed the biggest impact was improving my short game. I’d go to the pitch and putt at the LSU course a few nights a week and practice hitting those shots with different clubs. A half swing sand wedge vs a full swing 60, what if I open the face, low roll vs high flops, etc. Being able to place the ball near the hole makes it a lot easier to hole putts
- A big part was mental. If you’re a 110 player, eliminate 10 bad shots per round and you’re breaking 100. If you’re trying to shoot par, you basically get 1 bad shot per side if you’re lucky. Just having to understand how you want to play a hole and adjusting your strategy based on execution and conditions really takes a toll on you.
My goal was always to get to a point where I played well enough to have fun and enjoy myself, and that’s basically where I am now. I knew I didn’t have the time to invest to keep my game at that level, but I can play well enough to not embarrass myself and occasionally turn in a really solid round.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 8:26 am to BenDover
You're the perfect example of a swing coaches dream student. You had no experience, picked up a set and learned on your own how to just hit a golf ball. A lot of people over look the ability to "hit a golf ball" but if you can, from the get go, learn to keep your body still and have a balanced, repeatable swing and make consistent contact - you're miles ahead of the rest.
One thing I will recommend before jumping into lessons is having a conversation with the coach and map out goals over reasonable time periods given your ability to practice. Having a coach that understands your goals and help you get there is important. I know way to many CC guys that "take lessons" for $120 a pop and have the same scores years later. I'd recommend playing a few rounds with the coach, helps diagnose issues faster. Driving range doesn't expose all issues.
One thing I will recommend before jumping into lessons is having a conversation with the coach and map out goals over reasonable time periods given your ability to practice. Having a coach that understands your goals and help you get there is important. I know way to many CC guys that "take lessons" for $120 a pop and have the same scores years later. I'd recommend playing a few rounds with the coach, helps diagnose issues faster. Driving range doesn't expose all issues.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 8:32 am to LSU5508
Chip and putt
Quickest way to lower scores
I know some shitty golfers who can’t hit it out of their shadow but are decent chippers and putters so it keeps them coming back.
Quickest way to lower scores
I know some shitty golfers who can’t hit it out of their shadow but are decent chippers and putters so it keeps them coming back.
Posted on 12/1/20 at 9:04 am to Rendevoustavern
Kind of in the same boat, picked up clubs 3 summers ago, started playing very serious the last two. End of 2019 season and earlier in this season, I was pretty consistently in the 80s , low 90s with a few low 80s here and there.
Short game inside 75 is pretty easy for me these days, generally get up and down all the time and hardly ever 3 putt.
Game has gone to complete shite lately off the tee and with all my irons/wedges. Full swing wedge shots were my bread and butter and I've lost all confidence and even distance. 120-80 is short/thin/shank city. Feel like I've lost all compression on the ball where before I was really naturally good at that/divots for someone so new.
Kind of reeling right now and not enjoying the game, hopefully this off season I can work some stuff out but it hasn't been that fun lately and I can't figure out what happened. I can hardly get off the tee on a par 3, it's that bad. Driver is slicing and even going to 3 and 5 wood off the tee doesn't help like it used to.
Short game inside 75 is pretty easy for me these days, generally get up and down all the time and hardly ever 3 putt.
Game has gone to complete shite lately off the tee and with all my irons/wedges. Full swing wedge shots were my bread and butter and I've lost all confidence and even distance. 120-80 is short/thin/shank city. Feel like I've lost all compression on the ball where before I was really naturally good at that/divots for someone so new.
Kind of reeling right now and not enjoying the game, hopefully this off season I can work some stuff out but it hasn't been that fun lately and I can't figure out what happened. I can hardly get off the tee on a par 3, it's that bad. Driver is slicing and even going to 3 and 5 wood off the tee doesn't help like it used to.
This post was edited on 12/1/20 at 9:06 am
Posted on 12/1/20 at 12:02 pm to LSU5508
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Just really wondering how many of you were able to shave a solid number of strokes off your game or if the 70's is something you just either have or you don't.
1) Practice more, range time for the swing
2) Play more, course management and identifying weakness, not time for tinkering with your swing or experimenting
2) Get professional help, there is a reason professionals have coaches (minus bubba)
Posted on 12/2/20 at 4:36 pm to Rendevoustavern
I appreciate the response, and what you wrote is pretty much exactly what I did. I went out and hacked my way around the course until I could feel myself begin to hit the ball pure. I've never had a golf lesson before so I'm eager to learn some of the more technical components to playing the game and learning the nuances.
The lessons here are done via playing with the pro since we don't have a real driving range at the club. There's an area to the side where you can practice hitting ~50 yard wedges or so but that's really it.
The lessons here are done via playing with the pro since we don't have a real driving range at the club. There's an area to the side where you can practice hitting ~50 yard wedges or so but that's really it.
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