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re: PGA Tour players meeting tomorrow regarding LIV

Posted on 8/17/22 at 7:17 am to
Posted by SuperOcean
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 7:17 am to
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TPC Sawgrass is great and I love The Players but it can most certainly be “re-created”.

Build a stadium course out side Tokyo, Seoul or Melbourne and play a ‘major’ there yearly and the place would go nuts.



Sure it could recreated, I agree, but two points. 1) to throw down The players as some .. side event in Ponte Vedra and presumably the LIV can do better than that because ...LIV is international or LIV will be 48 elite players is silly. Well, LIV can't really be any more international and can't have a better field. You can put it out side ( way out side )Tokyo but you can't really get more people in

2) the premise was " can LIV stand with out Saudi money...if so how" again the idea of being better than players ( or the majors) in all of their events is probably more of a hope than a plan. With nearly a billion committed to contracts plus other administrative costs.. Then the potential of owners revenue ... None of this happens or continues to happen at scale without Muhammed bin Salman and his lack of concern for making a profit


ETA. On a side note... The PGA tour got the land for the Stadium Course for ..$1 ( granted they/Dye had to do a lot of work on it, but still a heck of a deal)
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 7:22 am
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 7:54 am to
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I just wonder how long they will be interested in golf for.


I wouldn't try to put a stopwatch on it. A quick google and you can see that Saudi Arabia's ownership in sports such as boxing, football (the soccer kind) Formula 1, and even the WWE send the signal they are diversified and as determined as any other owners of sports leagues and teams anywhere else.

Arabs can like sports too.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:05 am to
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to throw down The players as some .. side event in Ponte Vedra


Who did that?

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Well, LIV can't really be any more international


Than the Tour? What?

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the idea of being better than players ( or the majors) in all of their events is probably more of a hope than a plan.


Who said this?

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Then the potential of owners revenue .


Once again, what are you talking about?

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None of this happens or continues to happen at scale without Muhammed bin Salman and his lack of concern for making a profit


You have no idea what his appetite for profit is


It's like I'm taking fricking crazy pill reading your posts. You are just making shite up
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
4585 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:37 am to
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You have no idea what his appetite for profit is


It's like I'm taking fricking crazy pill reading your posts. You are just making shite up


I see the problem now, I presumed you actually remember your posting history and content.
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
4585 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:42 am to
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None of this happens or continues to happen at scale without Muhammed bin Salman and his lack of concern for making a profit



You have no idea what his appetite for profit is



Apparently it's zero. It's comical at this point you think he's going to make a profit or is worried about.

I will throw this tangent out. I'll admit... I have no idea what the profit appetite is for the Saudis. You admit you have no idea what's in the LIV contracts
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:46 am to
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I will throw this tangent out. I'll admit... I have no idea what the profit appetite is for the Saudis. You admit you have no idea what's in the LIV contracts


No one knows exactly what's in the LIV contracts. Seemingly some of the smaller guys got only advances on prize money, where as guys like Stenson said they have been paid.

Is this supposed to be some sort of gotcha on an indisputable fact?

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Apparently it's zero.


Based on?
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 8:47 am
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9655 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:15 am to
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I see the problem now, I presumed you actually remember your posting history and content.


That was evident when you busted him out for bringing up Ponte Verda first of which he had zero recollection.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:18 am to
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That was evident when you busted him out for bringing up Ponte Verda first of which he had zero recollection.



He asked specifically about the Players. The Players is held in Ponte Vedra. I'm still confused on how I brought that up

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How would they generate more advertising dollars than the Players ( which has had all 48 and many more) or Augusta or The Opens
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 9:21 am
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
4585 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:49 am to
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He asked specifically about the Players. The Players is held in Ponte Vedra. I'm still confused on how I brought that up

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How would they generate more advertising dollars than the Players ( which has had all 48 and many more) or Augusta or The Opens




Go back further
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:52 am to
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Go back further


Link?
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
4585 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 10:00 am to
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No one knows exactly what's in the LIV contracts. Seemingly some of the smaller guys got only advances on prize money, where as guys like Stenson said they have been paid.

Is this supposed to be some sort of gotcha on an indisputable fact?



Not really a "gotcha": but to make sure we have the same understanding. The comment you have made several times of " you don't know that" ...Well that same response should be made to everyone that touts " guaranteed contracts" and the money of LIV. We have no idea that Phil Mickelson is actually getting 200 million or what he has to do to get that. What does Bryson get if he is injured? It's a minor point but one that needs to be made.. That we should stop using the term "guaranteed money"
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39906 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 2:34 pm to
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Tiger is expected to fly in and be in attendance.




Big f'ing deal. Is he there to represent the reprehensible?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 2:37 pm to
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SuperOcean


I guess you gave up on showing me where I brought up the Players because, shocker, I didnt bring it up.
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
10083 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 2:51 pm to
With no cut or jeopardy.

LIV contracts are basically exhibition money.

Kind of like Buffalo Bill and his Wild West Show.

Or in modern times Biden wanting to forgive student loan debt.
Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
2126 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 2:57 pm to
I still think the end goal is to make LIV similar Formula 1.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 2:58 pm to
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LIV contracts are basically exhibition money.



The Tour Championship is a net championship

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Or in modern times Biden wanting to forgive student loan debt.


Jesus dude, what a fricking loser comment
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42272 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 3:03 pm to
Any news yet about the meeting?
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
10083 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 3:09 pm to
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still think the end goal is to make LIV similar Formula 1.


Maybe.

I just made the post above yours to piss off The Angry One since he was online.

His obsession with my posts are borderline psychotic.

I could go from the Tour side and start loving LIV Golf and he would flip to the other side.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 3:14 pm to
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His obsession with my posts are borderline psychotic.

I could go from the Tour side and start loving LIV Golf and he would flip to the other side.


Don't flatter yourself old man
Posted by MikeD
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Member since Jan 2004
8427 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 3:19 pm to
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Any news yet about the meeting?


I read where Cam Young and J Niemann attended
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