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re: Oakmont once again is being blown way out of proportion
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:38 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:38 pm to lsupride87
Jason lives in my neighborhood. He’s a single digit golfer, but also a “golf journalist.” The more drama/controversy, the better. 150 is a little much. Maybe?
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:53 pm to STLhog
quote:
he said the greens are super slow in non championship format and significantly easier than what these guys are facing. Rough is very tough but you just have to take your medicine and not try to be a hero.
He must have caught an odd day, or a wet day. I’ve played Oakmont several times, a high school friend is a member. Every time the greens were running around 12-14. The membership takes a ton of pride in the greens being fast at all times. The members will run the greens at 16 for club events.
There are a few times during the year that they grow them out and run them slow for health of the greens. He must have caught one of those times.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:25 am to RolltidePA
If you want to know what a real scratch would shoot on Sunday at Oakmont:
ETA: not the championship tees either
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If tweet fails to load, click here. ETA: not the championship tees either
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 7:35 am
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:02 am to ell_13
So 19 shots worse than average
Let’s tack on another 10 strokes if he played back tees
29 strokes than his average. About in line with what I have been saying…..
Amateurs aren’t going to be fricking 60+ strokes worse than what they normally shoot. It’s dumb as shite
Let’s tack on another 10 strokes if he played back tees
29 strokes than his average. About in line with what I have been saying…..
Amateurs aren’t going to be fricking 60+ strokes worse than what they normally shoot. It’s dumb as shite
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 8:03 am
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:21 am to lsupride87
Idk man but I’d say 30 strokes is pretty damn tough.
I think some of the hyperbole comes from tour pros lumping all amateurs in together. A professional golfer blows the door off a 5 handicap, so to them a 5 is much worse than they really are. I think there’s a perspective issue.
Oakmont is insanely difficult for golfers of all skill levels.
Trent almost certainly did not shoot a 104.
A scratch golfer can break 100 there.
All of those can be true.
I think some of the hyperbole comes from tour pros lumping all amateurs in together. A professional golfer blows the door off a 5 handicap, so to them a 5 is much worse than they really are. I think there’s a perspective issue.
Oakmont is insanely difficult for golfers of all skill levels.
Trent almost certainly did not shoot a 104.
A scratch golfer can break 100 there.
All of those can be true.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 8:22 am
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:45 am to lsupride87
They probably played from the member tees
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:20 am to m57
quote:
Riggs has to be the worst "4 handicap" in the history of golf.
There is no way in hell that he’s a 4 HDCP.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:17 pm to lsupride87
quote:You know we can read your older posts in this thread right?
29 strokes than his average. About in line with what I have been saying…..
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:43 pm to ell_13
Yes
Please point to me anywhere contradicting what I just posted above
Please point to me anywhere contradicting what I just posted above
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:45 pm to lsupride87
All of them.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:46 pm to ell_13
Ahh, so you are full of shite 
I saved you the work
Only post where I talk about where I think someone would shoot
I saved you the work
Only post where I talk about where I think someone would shoot
quote:
It’s still considerably over their handicap man. It shows it’s hard as hell. We just don’t need to get hyperbolic as shite with the “can’t break 150” or “they would 4 putt every green “ It’s amazing saying “I think being 20 strokes worse” is acting like the course is easy It’s just insane to actually pretend it’s 50 shots harder
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:51 pm to lsupride87
quote:You spent the entire thread talking as if this is legit.
If Trent can shoot 104 from 7500 yards the course isn’t the absolute death trap they are trying to make it out to be
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:55 pm to ell_13
I spent the entire thread saying real amateur golfers (18 handicap or lower)aren’t shorting 150s and shite and it’s ridiculous
I specifically said I think 20 over average is about in line. I referenced Trent and Riggs shooting 17 and 24 over their average wouldn’t shock me as that’s in line with what I am thinking
Somehow you think posting an amateur shooting 19 over his average proves my entire thread premise wrong that the media was full of shite saying 150 (or even 200 for a 10 handicap
) wasn’t stupid as shite
And they will be just as fricking dumb next year at Augusta and the us open and people will fall in line like idiots again
I specifically said I think 20 over average is about in line. I referenced Trent and Riggs shooting 17 and 24 over their average wouldn’t shock me as that’s in line with what I am thinking
Somehow you think posting an amateur shooting 19 over his average proves my entire thread premise wrong that the media was full of shite saying 150 (or even 200 for a 10 handicap
) wasn’t stupid as shite And they will be just as fricking dumb next year at Augusta and the us open and people will fall in line like idiots again
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:58 pm to lsupride87
You have no clue how slope and rating works. If a pro who is a +8 shoots even while a scratch shoots +23 (from the up tees!) where do you think that puts a 20 handicap? It’s not +40.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:01 pm to ell_13
I believe going strictly by slope and rating a 18 handicap would get 31 strokes at Oakmont
I will now listen to your argument why you think an 18 handicap should be +80 at Oakmont or a 10 handicap should be +130
I will now listen to your argument why you think an 18 handicap should be +80 at Oakmont or a 10 handicap should be +130
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:24 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:36 pm to AlxTgr
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:39 pm to lsupride87
quote:I said this where?
I will now listen to your argument why you think an 18 handicap should be +80 at Oakmont or a 10 handicap should be +130
You started this thread by believing Trent shot 104 from the championship tees in US open conditions and you went on and on arguing that. A real scratch goes out there and in real US Open conditions from less than 7k yards and can’t break 90 yet you act like this was in line with what you’ve been saying all along. Congrats. You trolled me.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:45 pm to ell_13
What the frick are you arguing then?
This is my third post in here. Right at the very top of the front page
The entire purpose of the thread is the media and some pros were once again being dumb as shite about what regular golfers would shoot at Oakmont
The barstool scores were simply used to show how fricking dumb shooting 150 or 200 was to say
This is my third post in here. Right at the very top of the front page
The entire purpose of the thread is the media and some pros were once again being dumb as shite about what regular golfers would shoot at Oakmont
The barstool scores were simply used to show how fricking dumb shooting 150 or 200 was to say
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:21 pm to ell_13
quote:
You started this thread by believing Trent shot 104 from the championship tees in US open conditions and you went on and on arguing that. A real scratch goes out there and in real US Open conditions from less than 7k yards and can’t break 90 yet you act like this was in line with what you’ve been saying all along. Congrats. You trolled me.
Having a conversation with the guy is the biggest waste of time you could ever have. Just ignore him
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 3:34 pm
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