re: New irons

I don't think the name of the thread is "everyone get new irons". I made the suggestion for the OP to try the AP1s and everyone gets butt hurt because they play blades, and their pappy played blades and their pappy's pappy played blades.

My pappy never played golf

I'm not butt hurt about anything. But I do think you're underestimating a 12 hdcp. Since I started playing blades my hdcp has actually gone down because I can work the ball either way when I need too. They have given me more options. And you said earlier a 12 hdcp shouldn't even be thinking of these things and just thinking about solid contact. I've looked at some of the game improvement irons and they look like fricking shovels. There is no way I would feel comfortable playing them.

This is not directed at you, but there are a lot of blanket statements made on this board that are flat out wrong. One of them being "the reason you're a 12 hdcp is because you're playing blades". I'm an 11, I play blades, I hit them well, and I love them. Do I miss greens? Yes, so does Jordan speith. But I'm playing with what I'm comfortable with.

It's ok if some people are happy with their blades, but many of them would see tighter shot dispersion and better distance control with GI irons. I think with a lot of golfers it's an ego thing. It's as if you are dropping down a level or admitting you shouldn't play what the pros play.

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The Ap1 is way too bulky and would not fit my swing at all.

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WTF does that even mean?

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I will however stand by my statement that I think 90% of 12 HCPs need to be using a more forgiving club.

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Most 12 handicaps are going to be making solid contact most every swing. A 12 handicap is a mid 80s shooter on average. Most of their bad shots are going to from bad drives and short game. They'll miss greens, sure, but it's not going to be a straight shank most of the time. Playing a game improvement iron may actually hurt some of these players bccaue of lack or workability. A 12 handicap could be that way for a multitude of reasons so saying 90% of 12's need to be using GI irons is widly inaccurate IMO.

I rotate between Callaway Apex's, and Titleist CB's. But, my scoring clubs, wedges, are always Vokey's...

If you like your x22's try the x24. I have a set of x24 hots and like them.

Just like to add there aren't that many pro's roll with a pure blade setup, many have hybrid or CB higher irons.

My personal opinion is that having the ability to shape shots will be one of the last things you add to your game to lower your score.

I just got a set of v6 with c taper shafts in them and they are great.Id recommend them to anyone looking for new irons

Bought some Ping G30's last week. Swung em real nice at dicks and decided to treat myself since ive been playing with 15 year old mizuno T Zoids for years.

Switched from graphite to steel shaft. Black dot. 4-W