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re: Lengthen the US Open Venues
Posted on 6/18/18 at 10:52 am to The Johnny Lawrence
Posted on 6/18/18 at 10:52 am to The Johnny Lawrence
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Make every hole play long.
It's hard to describe how boring this would be. What makes golf entertaining for so many people is that you're not watching the same thing over and over again. Merion was great that it had 5 par 4s less than 400 yards, but also some really long par 4s.
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 10:54 am to Dawgsontop34
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Merion was great that it had 5 par 4s less than 400 yards, but also some really long par 4s.
One of the best holes in the world is a 100 yard par 3
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:01 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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One of the best holes in the world is a 100 yard par 3
Postage Stamp is another great hole that's a sand wedge. Length doesn't make golf interesting IMO. It also doesn't make a great golf hole. There can be great golf holes that are long, but it's not the length that makes them great holes.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:15 am to Dawgsontop34
I don't understand why people want to make it a driver competition.
Make them hit fairways. Make them sink putts.
Force them to pay for it when they miss.
That's what I want to see.
Not this gimmicky shite because they are worried about par. I started to feel bad for the pros.
Make them hit fairways. Make them sink putts.
Force them to pay for it when they miss.
That's what I want to see.
Not this gimmicky shite because they are worried about par. I started to feel bad for the pros.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 1:38 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
Dumb post. Firm and fast, with unforgiving second cut of rough. Fast but receptive greens. The course will speak for itself.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 2:13 pm to Bustedsack
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Narrow the fairways.
This coupled with forcing landing zones could make even the shortest holes difficult for long, average, and short hitters alike.
Bottle neck the fairway with rough and make them play a strategy unlike all the other tournaments. (not saying there is not strategy in other tournaments, I'm saying make the strategy unlike all other tournaments)
By forcing the long hitters to take more irons off the tee you could neutralize the long hitters (without change to the ball) and make the game more about approach shots and risk vs reward. Can you gain some advantage with a long drive? Yes, but be prepared to have a landing area with trouble short, left, and right that is only 10 yards wide with a 300+ carry, or lay up and give yourself 210yds to the green, and play it smart. That would make a 450yds (average at Shinnecock was 455yds) par 4 into a 5 wood - 4/3 iron compared to driver - 9i / PW. That would help see scores move 2-3 strokes around.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 2:18 pm to The Rodfather
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By forcing the long hitters to take more irons off the tee you could neutralize the long hitters (without change to the ball) and make the game more about approach shots and risk vs reward. Can you gain some advantage with a long drive? Yes, but be prepared to have a landing area with trouble short, left, and right that is only 10 yards wide with a 300+ carry, or lay up and give yourself 210yds to the green, and play it smart. That would make a 450yds (average at Shinnecock was 455yds) par 4 into a 5 wood - 4/3 iron compared to driver - 9i / PW. That would help see scores move 2-3 strokes around.
This guys got it figured out
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:21 pm to Bustedsack
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Narrow the fairways.
This x1000 the Shinnecock fairways were like football fields, even at 7400 Koepka was hitting wedge or 9 iron into every hole, keep in mind he is hitting his short irons 180
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:26 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
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(3) Lengthen the golf course until most/all guys have to hit some long irons into par 4s with some three shot par 5s.
all lengthening does is play more into big hitters hands, you shrink the field even more when you lengthen the golf course.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 3:54 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
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Oakmont only played 7,200 yards for a par 70. Sure the USGA has a long hole every now and then and they have a lot of holes that are long for the average golfer, but guys hitting it 320 happens regularly. They also have guys that can hit it further than that. They don't have a golf course that is long throughout.
If you make a golfcourse 8200 yds, the guy that hits it the farthest while hitting fairways has the advantage. If you make it 6200 yds the guy that hits it the farthest while hitting fairways has the advantage. The only difference is at 8200 yds you have eliminated all but about 20 golfers effectively from the field.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 8:33 am to The Johnny Lawrence
No, don't make it longer make it more narrow and the greens smaller with more undulation and roll at a 10-12 (can't make them too fast with a lot of curve). Shinnecock is right up this alley save for a few wide fairways (which have to be due to the severity of the terrain).
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:38 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
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Alan Shipnuck said 9k-10k would be the length needed for the guys to hit long irons into greens
Well Alan Shipnuck is a retard.
The longest course in the world (China) is 8,550. The longest course in the US is the Pines course at International GC at 8,325.
There’s virtually no courses that could accommodate such length.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:55 am to TXGunslinger10
Stop playing links style courses. That's for the British open. This is murica, I want to see trees, water, and lots of sand. Like Pinehurst number two when Payne won it, and before they did the redo.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:19 am to VernonPLSUfan
LINK
An article by Bob Haring about why the US Open should stick to a few select courses.
Pebble Beach, Oakmont, Pinehurst, Torrey Pines, Medinah, Winged Foot, Shinnecock Hills, and Oakland Hills
An article by Bob Haring about why the US Open should stick to a few select courses.
Pebble Beach, Oakmont, Pinehurst, Torrey Pines, Medinah, Winged Foot, Shinnecock Hills, and Oakland Hills
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:28 am to Sader1990
I guess its too hot in the south for the elite bunch of pussies that play golf.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 1:09 pm to AlxTgr
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Dial back the ball.
This is a lot of it. The modern ball is longer, yes, but it spins much less and is much, much straighter.
I read one guys proposal years ago that was interesting. He proposed making the ball fractionally lighter. The result would be a ball that flew less far and was harder to control than modern balls at high ball speeds, but had minimal effect at moderate speeds and may even be a tad longer at lower speeds. No idea if his physics were correct, but would be a great answer.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 1:10 pm to yallallcrazy
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would be a great answer.
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