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Kid makes eagle on final hole...and loses to albatross

Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:02 am
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2003
5363 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:02 am
Maine state juniors. Two kids go to final hole par five tied.

One makes eagle... and loses cuz the other kid made an albatross from 193 yards.

Kid loses tourney to an albatross on the last hole
This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 12:04 am
Posted by lovethetigers7
Member since Jul 2019
517 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:15 am to
Just gotta tip your cap and accept it. Kind of happened to me in a tournament on the Golfweek am tour a couple of years ago at Koasati Pines. Shot my best ever tournament round of 81 - missed a birdie putt on 18 by an inch. Got beat by a guy who birdied 18 to shoot 80. Was kind of bummed but ultimately it was probably my best round ever given the circumstances, and I got beat by a guy who just played a tad bit better than me. Can’t be too mad about that.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35346 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 8:40 am to
While I agree with the gist of your statement, making an eagle to lose to an albatross is much, much worse.

At least he knew he had lost before he made the eagle
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9112 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 8:40 am to
Can't be mad that he lost to the hardest shot in golf.

Losing to an Albatross, you just have to laugh about it.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35891 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 10:37 am to
quote:

Can't be mad that he lost to the hardest shot in golf.

Losing to an Albatross, you just have to laugh about it


Six iron from 193 yards isn’t the hardest shot in golf unless there were mitigating circumstances. The event is rare, and the circumstances even more rare, but there are harder shots.
Posted by SamtheSham
In a greenside bunker
Member since Nov 2018
492 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:19 am to
quote:


Six iron from 193 yards isn’t the hardest shot in golf unless there were mitigating circumstances. The event is rare, and the circumstances even more rare, but there are harder shots.


It's harder than a 6 iron from 192.
Posted by SamtheSham
In a greenside bunker
Member since Nov 2018
492 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:19 am to
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This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 11:21 am
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9112 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

Six iron from 193 yards isn’t the hardest shot in golf unless there were mitigating circumstances. The event is rare, and the circumstances even more rare, but there are harder shots.


It is when your balls are up in your throat and you know that this is the tournament win in front of you.

The double eagle, also known as the albatross, is a rare bird on the golf course. ... Very, very difficult — a double eagle is much rarer than the hole-in-one. To score an albatross, a golfer has to hole out in two strokes (record a score of two) on a par-5 hole, or make a hole-in-one (a score of one) on a par-4 hole.

Here are a few relevant statistics to drive home the point:

Approximately 40,000 aces a year are made in the United States, compared to just a couple hundred double-eagles.
In the 21 years on the PGA Tour from 1983 through 2003, there were 631 holes-in-one made, but just 56 double eagles. And in none of those years were more than six albatrosses recorded.
From its inception in 1950 through 2016, a grand total of 36 doubles eagles were made on the LPGA Tour.
From its inception in 1934 through 2016, there were 27 aces in The Masters but only four albatrosses.
From 1895 through 2015 at the U.S. Open, there were 44 aces and three double eagles.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35891 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 3:18 pm to
Let me be clear here, there’s a difference between the most difficult shot to make and the rarity of an event.

I’d venture to say that it is easier for a top golfer to make it in the hole from 193 yards than from 240 yards or longer. That’s all I’m saying.

An albatross at 193 yards is certainly more rare than a hole in one on a par three from 193 yards but the tougher shot might be the hole in one shot. That would depend on the hole’s characteristics.

Posted by GeauxTigers777
Member since Oct 2007
1571 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 3:43 pm to
I feel like you are just being argumentative at this point. You have no idea what this 193 yard shot was. It could have been a 190 yard carry to a tucked pin. THe reality is albatrosses are less common because they are harder to make. They require two perfect shots. I will also argue that something is normally more rare because it is more difficult. It is normally a direct correlation.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35891 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 4:15 pm to
[quote]I feel like you are just being argumentative at this point. You have no idea what this 193 yard shot was. It could have been a 190 yard carry to a tucked pin. THe reality is albatrosses are less common because they are harder to make. They require two perfect shots. I will also argue that something is normally more rare because it is more difficult. It is normally a direct correlation.[/quote
Now I agree with you, an albatross is the two toughest shots in golf. One has to be very good and the second perfect. It’s more difficult to hit two shots from over 500 yards and make a two than one shot 193 yards and make a one.
But neither of the two shots are the toughest shots in golf to make individually. That’s what I reacted to.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13614 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

I’d venture to say that it is easier for a top golfer to make it in the hole from 193 yards than from 240 yards or longer. That’s all I’m saying.


Come on. Seriously? You are just one upping. Why not make it a 241 shot stymied behind a tree. It’s universally recognized that making a two on a par five is the hardest thing in golf. By your logic, yes, making a one on a par five is more difficult.
This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 6:06 pm
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31897 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 6:15 pm to
Why are you being obtuse? Yes if he was further away it would have been more difficult

The fact that he had to make it to win on the 18th hole and did it, makes it crazy exceptional. More impressive than someone holing out from 250 in a normal round
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35891 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 7:29 pm to
quote:


Come on. Seriously? You are just one upping. Why not make it a 241 shot stymied behind a tree. It’s universally recognized that making a two on a par five is the hardest thing in golf. By your logic, yes, making a one on a par five is more difficult.


You guys keep moving the target. All I said was that the shot he made was not the hardest shot in golf to make.
Making a shot from 193 yards out is not some extraordinary feat unless there was an exceptionally hard pin location.
And again you are wrong, it’s harder to make a hole in one on a par four than a two on a par 5. It’s happened only once on the PGS tour.
You guys need to chill out.

ETA:Corrected my spelling
This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 8:25 pm
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18144 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

Making a shot from 193 yards out is not some extraordinary fete unless there was an exceptionally hard pin location.


feat*

unless you meant celebration

because then "fete" is accurate

and an albatross is, by far, statistically the hardest score to make on a hole

so yea, its a pretty extraordinary feat (or fete)
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15347 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:21 am to
I got a bit of a cussing when I made my first albatross. We were 8 bets down going into 18 and the press was on.

Ended up 8 bets up, after another partner holed a wedge for eagle too.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5289 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 7:19 am to
quote:

Making a shot from 193 yards out is not some extraordinary feat unless there was an exceptionally hard pin location.


Yeah. But what about a shot from 193.5 out? Is that one hard for you to make?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35891 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 9:01 am to
quote:


Yeah. But what about a shot from 193.5 out? Is that one hard for you to make?

That’s my sweet spot. I am dialed in at 193.5 yards with my 8 iron.

;-)
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9112 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

I’d venture to say that it is easier for a top golfer to make it in the hole from 193 yards than from 240 yards or longer. That’s all I’m saying.



Doublereb, you are certainly entitled to your opinion.

All that I can say from personal experience, I have seen 6 holes in one including my own in 35 years.

I have seen one double eagle which was my own at Thrash Park a 20 years ago.

I'd venture to say that over 80% of golfers can't hit a par 5 in two shots since over 80 % of golfers can't break a 100.


Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35891 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 5:06 pm to
quote:


Doublereb, you are certainly entitled to your opinion.

All that I can say from personal experience, I have seen 6 holes in one including my own in 35 years.

I have seen one double eagle which was my own at Thrash Park a 20 years ago.

I'd venture to say that over 80% of golfers can't hit a par 5 in two shots since over 80 % of golfers can't break a 1

I wish I wouldn’t have commented because my original comments were taken out of context. I was merely saying holing a shot from 193 yards wasn’t the hardest shot in golf to make.
I understand an albatross (3 under on one hole) is tougher to do than a hole in one.
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