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If you hit a house that's on the course, what do you usually do?
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:19 pm
Quick background to my question. Yesterday, a guy in our group (who is actually a scratch golfer -- so this was actually very surprising to see) shanked one off the tee on a par 3 and it hit a roof hard. No visible damage though. The owner comes out screaming at him as he re-tees as if he broke a window or did it on purpose. The guy just ignored the owner and played on. You live on a golf course, a tight one at that, and are certainly in range of a shank. You assume the risk that your house may get hit when you purchase it. Not only that, but there was no damage.
So I must ask, given that situation, what do you guys usually do? Just cringe and move on? Would you have offered to pay for hitting a roof (may have dented a shingle, but impossible to know)?
So I must ask, given that situation, what do you guys usually do? Just cringe and move on? Would you have offered to pay for hitting a roof (may have dented a shingle, but impossible to know)?
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:22 pm to ForeverGator
if no one comes out and i didn't break a window, i move on
i've never had to worry about anything more than that
i do think that legally the golfer is responsible though
i've never had to worry about anything more than that
i do think that legally the golfer is responsible though
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:22 pm to ForeverGator
If it broke a window I’d do something, but hit a shingle? Occupational hazard of living on a golf course
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:25 pm to ForeverGator
They live on a golf course its an assumed risk. If you move onto a golf course and get upset about golf balls you're a colossal dumb arse.
I only broke a window 1 time. I left my phone number with the maid that was at the house. The homeowner called and said don't worry about it. He had 3 broken windows before and no one ever fessed up before me
I only broke a window 1 time. I left my phone number with the maid that was at the house. The homeowner called and said don't worry about it. He had 3 broken windows before and no one ever fessed up before me
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:27 pm to Croacka
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i do think that legally the golfer is responsible though
Incorrect. The homeowner has an assumption of risk by buying a house that borders a golf course. They know that not every shot will be perfect.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:28 pm to RJL2
I would think there's insurance for such a thing.
This course is notorious for how tight it is with houses lining almost every hole. Hell, on several holes, its advantageous to actually go over the houses to cut a corner.
In that circumstance I would feel more inclined to pay for a window if I took that gamble to go over the houses and skull it into a window or something.
This course is notorious for how tight it is with houses lining almost every hole. Hell, on several holes, its advantageous to actually go over the houses to cut a corner.
In that circumstance I would feel more inclined to pay for a window if I took that gamble to go over the houses and skull it into a window or something.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:33 pm to ForeverGator
Run
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:36 pm to ForeverGator
Assumed risk. Player isn’t legally responsible for any damage
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:41 pm to hehateme2285
I still can't believe that owner actually took the effort to come over and yell at us. Yeah, crappy shot, he "threw his hands at it" and shanked it. shite happens. I had never seen an owner do that before. It reminded me of about that one guy on here that was about to get into a physical altercation over some dudes hitting into his yard.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:45 pm to ForeverGator
CSB incoming
My buddy did this with a recycled ProV1 that had "practice" stamped on the side. The homeowner found it as we were pulling up to the fairway, and yelled that he just reported us to the clubhouse for using "range balls." I walked over and asked if there was any damage and he said no, so I explained that this course does not use ProV1 range balls. He kept yelling, threw the ball at us, and went back inside.
Despite this happening 5 years ago, to this day, I toss an actual range ball in his yard every single round.
My buddy did this with a recycled ProV1 that had "practice" stamped on the side. The homeowner found it as we were pulling up to the fairway, and yelled that he just reported us to the clubhouse for using "range balls." I walked over and asked if there was any damage and he said no, so I explained that this course does not use ProV1 range balls. He kept yelling, threw the ball at us, and went back inside.
Despite this happening 5 years ago, to this day, I toss an actual range ball in his yard every single round.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:51 pm to ForeverGator
I usually ask the homeowner for a ruling. If they act like they know what they're doing, I might ask him to watch my swing a time or two and see if they have any tips.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:56 pm to Golfer
DEAD WRONG. The GOLFER is RESPONSIBLE for the FLIGHT OF HIS BALL. LOOK IT UP!
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 4/4/18 at 2:12 pm to putt1058
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DEAD frickIN' WRONG. The GOLFER is RESPONSIBLE for the FLIGHT OF HIS BALL. LOOK IT UP!
I have. An errant shot does not rise to the level of negligence because of the primary assumption of risk.
Cavin v. Kasser 20 S.W.2d 647 (Mo. Ct. App. 1991).
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In general, a golfer preparing to drive a ball has no duty to warn persons "not in the intended line of flight on another tee or fairway." Even more to the point, whatever the extent of a golfer's duty to other players in the immediate vicinity on the golf course, a golfer ordinarily may not be held liable to individuals located entirely outside of the boundaries of the golf course who happen to be hit by a stray, mishit ball.28
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This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 4/4/18 at 2:37 pm to ForeverGator
If you like on a golf course you are responsible for any and all damage inflicted by golf balls. It's an assumption of risk.
As a golfer, you can offer to pay damages if you feel like it, but it no way are you fiscally responsible for any damage you actually cause.
As a golfer, you can offer to pay damages if you feel like it, but it no way are you fiscally responsible for any damage you actually cause.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 2:39 pm to putt1058
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DEAD WRONG. The GOLFER is RESPONSIBLE for the FLIGHT OF HIS BALL. LOOK IT UP!
Do you realize how many pros would have been sued into oblivion for hitting bystanders if this were true.
Don't be dumb.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 2:40 pm to RB10
There are a few cases creeping up where the homeowner has successfully sued the course itself, not an individual golfer, for negligence in course design and/or home placement. Most of these center around courses that built homes in very precarious positions within their master plan.
The only times a golfer has been found liable is when they are intentionally doing something outside of a reasonable stroke. For instance, hitting into the group in front of them and injuring someone, knowing that they could be reached. Or trying to play over a house that is in a dogleg, knowing the carry is a greater distance than normally reached by your drives.
The only times a golfer has been found liable is when they are intentionally doing something outside of a reasonable stroke. For instance, hitting into the group in front of them and injuring someone, knowing that they could be reached. Or trying to play over a house that is in a dogleg, knowing the carry is a greater distance than normally reached by your drives.
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 4/4/18 at 2:43 pm to putt1058
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putt1058
Apologize for your gross negligence.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 2:43 pm to Golfer
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There are a few cases creeping up where the homeowner has successfully sued the course itself, not an individual golfer, for negligence in course design and/or home placement. Most of these center around courses that built homes in very precarious positions within their master plan.
That actually makes some sense. Still, I'm sure it's rare.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 2:56 pm to The Pirate King
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If it broke a window I’d do something, but hit a shingle? Occupational hazard of living on a golf course
Agreed. Fortunately I've never done any real damage to a house. I've been with people that have though. I've been yelled at by people whose yard I've hit a ball into before. I mean come on, you live on a golf course. Did you not notice that there was a golf course there when you moved in? One guy came out of his house, walked up to my ball, put it in his pocket and walked back inside.
I took a nice divot out of his back yard. I also hit into Bobby Bowden's yard one time. I did NOT take a divot out of his yard. I retrieved my ball and GTFO'd.Posted on 4/4/18 at 3:04 pm to MountainTiger
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One guy came out of his house, walked up to my ball, put it in his pocket and walked back inside.
The ball was technically his.
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I took a nice divot out of his back yard.
Well that was a dick move.
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I also hit into Bobby Bowden's yard one time. I did NOT take a divot out of his yard. I retrieved my ball and GTFO'd.
Pussy
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