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re: How good do you need to be for the type of ball to REALLY matter?
Posted on 6/27/24 at 7:58 am to Tiger1242
Posted on 6/27/24 at 7:58 am to Tiger1242
Not sure if this has been said yet but spin impacts distance and having consistent distances is key. When you hit into a green you want to know your number and not get snuck up on by the ball you picked up two holes ago and come up ten yards short.
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 8:15 am to dpd901
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My Golf Spy did an expensive data driven study on this over multiple years now. This is a myth. Almost everyone gains performances benefits from the best tour balls on the market. People who play a “softer” feeling ball because they think it goes further for their lower swing speed are almost always wrong.
This testing proved that compression wasn't a big factor as we were led to believe by the ball manufacturers.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 8:23 am to Tiger1242
I'm around a 14. I play softfeel balls, usually Srixon or Bridgestone. I like the feel of the soft balls around the green and putting. I can tell a huge difference between soft and say a ProV1. Hitting a ProV1 to me is like hitting a rock. Just don't like hitting them much.
This post was edited on 6/27/24 at 8:24 am
Posted on 6/27/24 at 8:48 am to Tiger1242
I'm about an 8 hcp. I did finally notice in the last few years the distance difference between balls. It wasn't huge but it can be noticeable. cheap balls and prov1/vice balls I was playing would be as much as 5 yards difference on some mid irons.
I have since moved to only playing one ball (vice pro) and I do feel I see more consistent distances with all my irons. I dont shoot at pins. I play to middle of green almost exclusively with approach shot but many times if I am 2-3 yards shorter, I'm in a bunker or some type of trouble. I think playing one ball saves me maybe 1-2 strokes over a couple rounds.
I have since moved to only playing one ball (vice pro) and I do feel I see more consistent distances with all my irons. I dont shoot at pins. I play to middle of green almost exclusively with approach shot but many times if I am 2-3 yards shorter, I'm in a bunker or some type of trouble. I think playing one ball saves me maybe 1-2 strokes over a couple rounds.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:02 am to TyOconner
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Not sure if this has been said yet but spin impacts distance and having consistent distances is key. When you hit into a green you want to know your number and not get snuck up on by the ball you picked up two holes ago and come up ten yards short.
What I’m saying, at least for my game, that is a negligible difference. My balls flies within the acceptable range of distance regardless of what ball I am using, if I miss a green 10 yards short, I’m not blaming the golf ball.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:17 am to TyOconner
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Not sure if this has been said yet but spin impacts distance and having consistent distances is key. When you hit into a green you want to know your number and not get snuck up on by the ball you picked up two holes ago and come up ten yards short.
For the vast majority of golfers, coming up 10 yards short is going to be due to poor ball striking.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 10:07 am to Tiger1242
I think it matters a good bit, particularly if you have a consistent miss. If your miss is left, using a ball that’s too low spin is going to lead to huge dive bombing hooks. If you miss right, a ball that spins too much is going to go nowhere on a right miss. Same concept with irons. Then of course the feel and spin greenside.
If you’re so inconsistent that you have no good idea where it’s going it doesn’t matter IMO
ETA: if you play game improvement irons, spin can easily get too low. High spin balls can help with directional and distance control.
If you’re so inconsistent that you have no good idea where it’s going it doesn’t matter IMO
ETA: if you play game improvement irons, spin can easily get too low. High spin balls can help with directional and distance control.
This post was edited on 6/27/24 at 10:29 am
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:19 am to TaderSalad
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Ball absolutely makes a difference. Spin affects launch and flight.
The question was "how good do you need to be..."
A golfer in the 90-100s is not going to get a significant advantage from ProV1s over a TourSoft. The bottom 5 golfers in my league all play premium balls. ProV1's fly just as far into the woods as a TourSoft with their swings.
I've shot in the 70's with anything from TopFlight (79 at old City Park East Course) to Maxfli Tour (73 at Falcon's Fire in Orlando).
IMO, If you have GAME, a better ball is just the cherry on top.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 12:21 pm to TaderSalad
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Ball absolutely makes a difference. Spin affects launch and flight.
I’m terrible, so the ball really doesn’t make much difference. What I do think makes a difference for me is consistency. I try to always play the same ball, since some feel very different when chipping and putting.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 1:31 pm to FieldEngineer
I'm terrible too and normally can't tell the difference off the tee or irons. On the greens I can putt better with certain balls. But Sunday I found a brand new Maxfli SoftFli and decided to try it out on the last few holes. I hit it a little longer and could actually feel it off my irons which was longer too. Will have to try a box. Do anyone know what they compare too. I play with Chrome soft and Srixon soft feel(seems like every vendor that gives me golf balls it will be a dozen of one or the other).
Posted on 6/27/24 at 6:49 pm to ReeseWee
It’s a two piece ball.
Comparable to Srixon soft feel and Callaway Supersoft.
It is a very economical golf ball.
Callaway chrome soft is a premium golf ball.
Comparable to Srixon soft feel and Callaway Supersoft.
It is a very economical golf ball.
Callaway chrome soft is a premium golf ball.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 3:02 pm to makersmark1
Callaway Supersoft and Srixon Q-Star are my ever day balls.
The tp5x is my serious day ball. Has really good feel and performance
The tp5x is my serious day ball. Has really good feel and performance
Posted on 6/28/24 at 8:22 pm to llfshoals
Srixon Q star tour is a urethane cover at a good price point.
I have garage full of golf balls. I’ve tried many makes and models.
None of them float.
None of them like to be hit fat.
The urethane covers are more durable and create more spin.
I have garage full of golf balls. I’ve tried many makes and models.
None of them float.
None of them like to be hit fat.
The urethane covers are more durable and create more spin.
This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 6/28/24 at 10:46 pm to makersmark1
quote:You’re going to have to beat that into them.
None of them like to be hit fat.
Assuming one stays dry long enough
Posted on 6/29/24 at 8:05 am to Tiger1242
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My guess is that unless you are near a + handicap, or just have a ridiculously good short game, the difference in balls is negligible
Anyone with remotely high swing speed is going to notice a difference in performance on good strikes with a premium ball vs a top flight or whatever. Both in distance and (more importantly) spin. And tbh no matter the swing speed, it's gonna matter on approach and around the greens. I play with dudes all the time who play crap balls and can't hold a green for shite from 50 yards even on a fairly good shot.
I mean if you are a 20+ handicap, yea, it's probably worth working on your game more so than making sure you are playing the best ball available. But if you can shoot in the 80s you are losing strokes if you aren't playing a decent golf ball - and I would say playing the same ball is important too, rather than playing random balls you find in the woods. Consistency is important.
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 8:07 am
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:57 am to Tiger1242
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Too many people give average-below average golfers bad advice about how they should be spending most of their time chipping and putting even though they can’t even get the ball in play off the tee.
There is definitely some truth to this. A whole lot of forest around me so many of the courses leave little margin for error. If you mishit off the tee, it's about guaranteed you're taking a penalty. 3-4 OB shots in a round HURTS a hell of a lot more than a couple of 3 putts. I'm not a great short player by any stretch of the imagination, but my scorecard and ease of the game change significantly when that driver is working, a lot more than when I'm putting well.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 1:56 pm to llfshoals
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You’re going to have to beat that into them.
Today’s main golf ball issue was basically my golf ball was afraid of heights. Despite being encased in a hard, urethane cover, my golf balls kept rolling to the lip, looking in and staying out. It’s only a 4-5 inch drop into the hole, why are they so afraid?
I finally made a birdie on 18. Took all day, but the ball finally fell in like a paratrooper would.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 2:35 pm to makersmark1
quote:The almighty occasionally relents and lets one in. Keeps you coming back for his entertainment for the other 17
I finally made a birdie on 18. Took all day, but the ball finally fell in like a paratrooper would.
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