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Green topography maps showing the elevation differences on a putting surface.

Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:42 am
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:42 am
See one company's printed map as an example:



This (Strackaline) popped up on my feed the other day and I was looking at their maps. They charge for each individual course in their database.

Hard copy booklet cost $100 (Greens only) per course, but only $39 for a greens only card, but it's small as shite (2"x2").

Digital (seen below) is $100 per year, per course.




What's a good price point for something like this for the weekend golfer? I'm headed to LSU GC with a laser scanner and another engineering friend to try and scan 16, 17 & 18 to see if it can be accomplished for what we have. We are just using LSU as a test facility since they will let us try it out.

If it works, maybe hit up some of the regional courses and offer services; either to the course only or creating an app (GPS still like 18 Birdies) that will allow for a green elevation add-on via an in-app purchase.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:45 am to
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What's a good price point for something like this for the weekend golfer?


$0. They should be banned, and if you are a weekend golfer using this shite you can GFY.

These are the reason it takes 6 hours to play tournament rounds.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:48 am to
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$0. They should be banned, and if you are a weekend golfer using this shite you can GFY.


Course booklets are allowed, what's the difference?

This may actually speed up play and help people learn how to read greens since it can either confirm their own thoughts or correct their mistakes.
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 9:49 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:59 am to
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Course booklets are allowed, what's the difference?



You can't calculate the almost exact break with distance from the tee to a hazard with a course booklet.

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This may actually speed up play


Other than the fact that this is 100% factually wrong, I guess.
Posted by BMoney
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:01 am to
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$0. They should be banned, and if you are a weekend golfer using this shite you can GFY.

These are the reason it takes 6 hours to play tournament rounds.


Say it again louder for those in the back.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:01 am to
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What's a good price point for something like this for the weekend golfer?


Green book by golflogix are $40 and has hole view, green slope for approach and putt break. They also have an app.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:01 am to
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Other than the fact that this is 100% factually wrong, I guess.


Say you're playing for 4 dudes and each one has the green elevation and have marked their ball.

Each will already be looking at this app and getting ready to line up their putt while the others are putting. Compared to each pacing around the green, setting a line, 2nd guessing themselves, resetting the line, walking around again, and then finally putting.

This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 10:06 am
Posted by BMoney
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:07 am to
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Say you're playing for 4 dudes and each one has the green elevation and have marked their ball.

Each will already be looking at this app and getting ready to line up their putt while the others are putting. Compared to each pacing around the green, setting a line, 2nd guessing themselves, resetting the line, walking around again, and then finally putting.


If you're not earning a living playing golf, you're an a-hole for staring at your phone to figure out the break on your 18 foot par putt.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:07 am to
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Say you're playing for 4 dudes and each one has the green elevation and have marked their ball.

Each will already be looking at this app and getting ready to line up their putt while the others are putting. Compared to each pacing around the green, setting a line, 2nd guessing themselves, resetting the line, walking around again, and then finally putting.



You're wrong dude, I don't know what to tell you. Tournaments that allow these play rounds that are an hour plus longer than tournaments that don't.

You can believe whatever you want, but that's not going to change the facts.
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:08 am to
They are currently legal, but there is a faction that thinks they should be banned.

How much I would pay and how much they are worth are completely different, imo.

If I was a member at a nice country club, I'd probably drop $100 on a really nice one and I'd keep it in a holder in my back pocket. I'd also use it all of the time.

Playing muni golf, I'm not paying more than the price of a round for a green book. I'm also not interested in buying 5-6 of them, one for every course I play. I'd also get made fun of if I took it out during a round with my buddies.

For the average weekend warrior, pulling out $5 for the yardage book at a course you've never played is extremely valuable and hardly ever done, in my experience. I can't imagine how much traction you'd have at an even higher price point, even though you are adding a ton of additional value with the green area done properly.

Caveat: tournament golf is different. If you focused on courses that held amatuer tournaments, you may be able to get some traction. Think US Open qualifiers, State Ams, etc.

Posted by barry
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:09 am to
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$0. They should be banned, and if you are a weekend golfer using this shite you can GFY.

These are the reason it takes 6 hours to play tournament rounds.




Its dumb to ban them, they just need to enforce pace of play.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:11 am to
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Its dumb to ban them, they just need to enforce pace of play


Completely takes the skill out of putting. You can find the photos of Bryson and others books. They have it written down from "X" feet on "Y" slope the putt breaks "this much"

All you have to do is line up right.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:13 am to
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Completely takes the skill out of putting.


You still have to make the stroke. However, I agree apps like this should be banned, but if pace of play isn't
t enforced, screw it. Use every advantage you can get.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:18 am to
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You still have to make the stroke. However, I agree apps like this should be banned, but if pace of play isn't
t enforced, screw it. Use every advantage you can get.



We played the Wetlands last week in 4:15 and I doubt me carrying around an easy green elevation map on my phone would have slowed the 4-some down.
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 10:19 am
Posted by OchoDedos
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:45 am to
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Its dumb to ban them, they just need to enforce pace of play.

Learn how to hit an approach shot, and read a break. Amateurs have no need for greens books.
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:55 am to
To be fair to Bryson that is how he handles every single aspect of his game
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:37 pm to
GolfLogix baw
Posted by TaderSalad
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:42 pm to
When a weekend golfer can sink 75% of his 5 foot putts for double, we can talk about putting maps.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:46 pm to
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What's a good price point for something like this for the weekend golfer?
why in the world would your regular weekend golfer need this?
Posted by Swagga
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 2:05 pm to
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What's a good price point for something like this for the weekend golfer?


I dream of a Saturday morning round where I show up and get paired with a random who busts this out. I’ll have to get carted off the first green dying from laughter.
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