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re: Golf has a numbers problem
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:59 am to iwyLSUiwy
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:59 am to iwyLSUiwy
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I wasn't saying do it when they were still on the green or in the fairway. But something that would send them a message that ok we're being dickheads.
I still think that isn't the right way to do it. Did you see the highlight of Aaron Rai almost killing someone during the PGA recently when his punch shot was shanked and came very close to the crowd? He's one of the best 100 golfers in the world. You may think you're going to send a message by hitting the green while they are getting in their carts, but you could just as easily hit them.
Hitting into someone is more likely to make someone angry than actually getting a message that is received. Try to have a conversation with the group or call the pro shop.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 10:01 am
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:10 am to PhiTiger1764
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a single or twosome behind a foursome at a public course on the weekend,
First off, this shouldn’t happen often. Busy public courses should pair groups like this up. When I have played some very well known courses in the past as a single I was told I could play but would have to wait for a tee time with a group I could fill in with. No availability for singles/ 2somes.
That said, if I ever am playing as a single or a 2some I have NO expectations of being let through. It was my choice to play in a manner that does not match the speed of even an efficiently managed course where 4somes are the norm. I definitely appreciate being let through, but do not expect it.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:18 am to makersmark1
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At some point this will subside, or are we in a “new golf era” where nobody ever quits?
It'll fade, this happens all of the time.
But right now is the worst I have seen it.
I tried to go out and walk 9 yesterday after work and there was a line on the first tee at 5 30, never seen that before.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:21 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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Last week i saw a whole family outing on the golf course. Women, children, grandpas.
I saw this the other day as well.
I also see a ton of girls riding and playing, way more than I used to see.
Did COVID do this?
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:29 am to i am dan
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Get early tee times.. around 8am or earlier. That's when the good, fast players play.
almost impossible right now without getting it 3 weeks out.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 11:20 am to Tiger1242
Played behind a group of two young guys and their instagram girlfriends. They took pics and videos of everything, all day. I hit into them twice before finally just going around them on 16.
The marshall passed at least 3 times and did nothing. But I better not have a small ice chest in my cart.
eta..when i say 'hit into them" i mean i hit a ball that rolled near them to send a message. i wasn't trying to hit anyone.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 11:22 am
Posted on 5/22/25 at 11:36 am to Tyga Woods
I only play at high end private courses with top notch marshalls, I cant imagine having to play with poors.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:16 pm to CBandits82
Were you at City Park?
I pulled up to play and hit a few putts and decide it was best to just head to Webb and practice.
I pulled up to play and hit a few putts and decide it was best to just head to Webb and practice.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:41 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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quote: There's not an argument that can be made, in my opinion, that justifies hitting into someone
Agree to disagree.
You sir should not be part of this gentleman’s game if you ever think it is ok to hit a golf ball towards another human.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:44 pm to Tiger1242
The course sets the expected pace of play. Many courses monitor pace of play through cart gps. If you call the pro shop and they deem the group in front of you is playing within the acceptable pace they are not going to send someone out.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:50 pm to Bawpaw
I was 
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:54 pm to tiger626
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You sir should not be part of this gentleman’s game if you ever think it is ok to hit a golf ball towards another human.
Did you read my posts? Like I said, I've been playing for 25 years and have never done this and odds are that I never will. And it's not hitting at them. Like a previous poster said, a warning shot.
On top of the made up hypothetical that will never happen, I play at a course where there is usually 3-4 groups maximum on the course on the busiest day because the billionaire members want to keep the membership down to have the course to yourself so it certainly isn't happening there.
I think I'll keep playing.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 2:39 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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If there is room in front of you and you don't let someone through just because you think they should be happy with a four hour round is a straight up a-hole move.
Define “room in front”. If no one is in front, you’ll get let through. If your expectation is to be let through when someone is on the hole ahead of us and our pace is good, sorry, not happening.
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It only takes a few minutes to let someone through, it's not that big of a deal, good lord.
It can take 5-10 minutes and disrupts a round and can cause further back ups for everyone else.
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I would starting hitting into you as soon as you stepped off the fairway or green.
You wouldn’t do shite about it.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 2:56 pm to PhiTiger1764
If you won’t let someone through who’s waiting on you even though you’re on pace then you’re part of the problem.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 3:52 pm to PhiTiger1764
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Define “room in front”. If no one is in front, you’ll get let through. If your expectation is to be let through when someone is on the hole ahead of us and our pace is good, sorry, not happening.
I think this is a good question and a reason why this isn't such an easy situation.
Let's say there are 3 groups. Two foursomes and a single. The two foursomes are playing at the same pace. Typically, on par 4s, the first foursome is leaving the green while the second foursome is getting to the tee box. So, there is technically room in front of the second foursome.
The single catches the foursome. The single only sees that there is nobody in front of the second foursome when he catches them. So, there are 2 options:
1. Let the single through. What is gained? The single may finish 10 minutes earlier than previously. What's lost? The 4 people playing in the second foursome are likely waiting on the single on many shots because that gap that was there previously is now gone. When the first foursome is leaving the green, the single can now hit his approach. However, the second foursome now has to wait (albeit a short time). So, before, the second foursome had an enjoyable pace of play, but now it does not flow nearly as well.
2. Keep going as is. The second foursome continues their smooth pace. The single finishes 10 minutes later.
I know it's a hypothetical, and, I typically let faster groups play through, but it's not so cut and dry. I'll reiterate that when the course is not packed, letting people through is the right thing to do for all parties. However, on weekends, letting a group through when there is not sufficient room ends up like the cause of auto traffic jams.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 5/22/25 at 4:50 pm to PhiTiger1764
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You wouldn’t do shite about it.
I’d pass your group and there’s nothing any of y’all would do about it
Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:40 pm to GCTigahs
How's the course? Looking to play there over the weekend.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:19 pm to RawDog7984
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f you won’t let someone through who’s waiting on you even though you’re on pace then you’re part of the problem.
If a foursome in front of me as a single or pair is playing 12-14 minute holes, I’m not complaining. Besides, if they let me pass, I’m gonna hit a terrible tee shot anyway.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:30 pm to Splackavellie
The greens were a little slower than I remember, especially downhill putts. Some of the tee boxes were a little rough.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 11:15 pm to GCTigahs
Everyone here is blaming the bad golfers, they are absolutely part of the problem but what is missing from the equation is greed from the golf course. Plenty of munis are trying to pack as many tee times in with 5-6 minute intervals and are shocked when people pile up 2 holes later. I know at my course we moved intervals to 10 minutes between tee times to help pace and its made a big difference.
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