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Average score by handicap analysis (Official Handicap Discussions, Questions, and Answers)

Posted on 7/11/20 at 5:09 pm
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 7/11/20 at 5:09 pm


Thought this was a cool chart, many people think a scratch shoots par all the time but don’t understand your handicap shows your potential as a golfer, not an average.

Now you a plus is pretty close to shooting even on average.

Pretty cool data seeing it like this.

This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 9:11 pm
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/11/20 at 5:13 pm to
Also very dependent on tees. Since that determines rating/slope.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 7/11/20 at 5:16 pm to
Very true no doubt
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 7/11/20 at 5:16 pm to
Post your bag in my thread right this minute
This post was edited on 7/11/20 at 5:17 pm
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/11/20 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by GWfool
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Posted on 7/11/20 at 5:34 pm to
While it is correct that handicap is based on potential not average score per se, these numbers look a little high for the relative indexes. As Elle pointed out it is dependent on slope and tees as well.

Maybe it’s because it’s from the Grint. My GHIN is a 12.6 but the Grint estimates me at an 8-10 which I find curious.

*edit. Thinking about it they’re really not that high but maybe a stroke or so. I guess it just really all depends on the various tees/slopes.
This post was edited on 7/11/20 at 5:49 pm
Posted by NaturalBeam
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Posted on 7/11/20 at 5:48 pm to
Yes, good rule of thumb is that your average is roughly 3 higher than your cap.

There’s some interesting statistics about how often you shoot your handicap (I think it’s about 20% of the time), and what the odds are of beating your handicap by a certain number of strokes.

It’s a good way of calling bullshite on handicaps in money tournaments. When you see a 5 handicap shoot a 75, sure he has the potential to do that, though it’s probably 1 round out of 20. And when he does that multiple times in a tournament, it’s nearly statistically impossible.
Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 7/11/20 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

There’s some interesting statistics about how often you shoot your handicap (I think it’s about 20% of the time), and what the odds are of beating your handicap by a certain number of strokes.


Check out “ the pope of slope.”

Dude puts sand baggers in their place.

Member-guest is usually loaded with sand baggers.

I’ve shot 36on each of our 9s.

I’ve never done it the same day.
Anybody can play a great round, but when a 12 puts 5 straight 9s under 40, it’s just sandbagging.
Posted by medtiger
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Posted on 7/11/20 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

“ the pope of slope.”


Love that website. Knuth tells it like it is.
Posted by NaturalBeam
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Posted on 7/11/20 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

Member-guest is usually loaded with sand baggers.
Yep. I’ve had the opposite problem. Last one I played in, my partner told me he was a 4. Dude shot high 80s 3 days in a row

I guess he was worried about being called a sandbagger.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 7/12/20 at 4:16 pm to
I never realized this. It is interesting info. I thought a handicap was relative to par while figuring in ratings if the course. I’ve never seen anyone say that your average score is going to end up handicap plus 2-4
Posted by cbtullis
Atlanta
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Posted on 7/12/20 at 6:21 pm to
This seems to be dead on with me.
I’m a 7.8 index
I seem to shoot 81-85, 9 out of 10 times
The other days might be upper 70’s or upper 80’s
If I actually worked on my short game I could drop a few strokes
Posted by mikedatyger
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 10:20 am to
^^^
That's me.
Posted by JohnDoe00
Houston, TX
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 2:43 pm to
What is the best way to figure out my handicap? I have been tracking rounds with the 18Birdies app, and I see it allows me to put in a cap but I need something to actually calculate it.
Posted by NaturalBeam
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:52 pm to
GHIN is the gold standard but it costs an annual fee. If you're a member at a club or your state golf association, it may be included though.

For free, try https://handicap.golfdigest.com
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:56 pm to
Go to USGA.org and sign up for your states golf association, around $40 for the year
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:18 pm to
This is dead on to me it seems like
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:20 pm to
Do yall post to the GHIN when you play a round by yourself and you follow all rules?

We have a weekend group but I may get a round in during the week by myself and want to count it if I play by the rules.

Im just getting back into having an official Handicap and its kind of bullshite I cant use rounds Ive played by myself.

How do people who play single all the time get a handicap?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:23 pm to
You’re not supposed to post solo rounds. So no. But I rarely play a solo round without hitting extra balls or putts anyway.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:31 pm to
Then how do people who play by themselves get a handicap?

Kind of a shitty rule IMO.
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