re: Are you a slow player?

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they are average players… 0-3 hdcp

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0-3 handicap is not an average player

They would be called good golfers, and, generally speaking in my experience, good golfers are slower than average golfers.

I play very fast according to different groups I’ve played with. I rarely take practice swings, get my yardage and club while others are hitting(knowing your yardages is key), watch everyone’s shot so you can locate them faster, start reading putt while approaching the green (slope of green, grain, etc.), and when it’s my turn GO! It’s not hard at all. Also walk like you have a pulse; irritating watching already slow players walk slower than a turtle.

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but my guess would be it’s in part due to sounding arrogant about golfers who shoot in the high 70s-low 80s, and then being a little over the top in terms of time.

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Got some real Mile High Draw vibes in here.

They probably drive the speed limit in the left lane too.

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It's not enjoyable when people are breathing down your back when you are keeping pace with the group in front of you, and the group in front of them, and so on, and there really is nowhere to go.

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Then move over and let me play through. Pretty simple.

Walked off the course this afternoon after taking over two hours to play 9 holes. Two twosomes in front of us and a fivesome in front of them. The next group was at least two holes in front of the fivesome. Nobody letting anyone play through. The marshall just driving around waving at everyone.

One of the guys in the group in front of us was topping every tee shot, playing multiple balls, waiting for the green to clear on short par 4’s, and walking complete circles around 50 foot putts, squatting down from every angle on every green.

It may have been the most aggravated I’ve ever been on a golf course.

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Then move over and let me play through. Pretty simple.

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There is nowhere for you to go.

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People who try and race around the course to finish in 2hrs, constantly trying to play through back to back to back foursomes and glaring at you when you take 10 seconds to line up your putt are worse than people who play slow.

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See, this is what gets me. I’m admittedly a fast player. It suits my natural pace. My regular groups, on an empty course, average 3.5 or less for a leisurely round. There is NO racing around, no ‘just pick it up’, we line up putts, tell stories, laugh, have a great time. Likely even go in at the turn for a beverage. Still, over 4 hrs would take willfully trying to kill extra time.

Several things I see in front of me a lot :
- cart/ club management. Park or drop bag in such a way as to exit green away from oncoming play. That way they can hit approaches sooner.

- what bopper said earlier. If cart occupants are far apart, drop one off and go to other ball.

-When a player hits a ball in the gunch, hit your shot first THEN help look. That way when ball is found or new ball is dropped only one guy has to prepare and hit. Not 4

- true ready golf. Not just on tee. If cart park area is a walk from where one guy has to go hit a pitch from, everyone else can putt while he goes. If player A is debating club choice in fairway and B is 10
Yds ahead and ready : “hey man I’ll just hit so you can take your time”.

- if you are shooting 90s you don’t have the club face control to go through a long pre shot routine or especially pre- putt. Get lined up and play. As you improve you can refine this routine, but by then you aren’t spending all day looking for balls etc. You can be ‘ lost ball guy’ or ‘ every millimeter matters’ guy, but it makes no sense to be both.


I played with guys I’ve never played with before last week. One in particular lined up all putts meticulously with a line on the ball, plumb bob, adjust, then pick up mark and putt. It took a bit of time on the greens but we still played in less than 4 hrs on a busy course because no none was looking for lost balls. Even with a ‘slow’ putting routine we didn’t play slow.


I hate slow play, but even more I hate the characterization that playing under 4 hrs requires any sort of rushing at all. It doesn’t.

And 5+ hrs??
I don’t even understand what people can do to eat that much time.

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And 5+ hrs??
I don’t even understand what people can do to eat that much time.

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That's the thing. Most groups are not going to take 5 hours to play a round if nobody else is on the course. It's not taking 5 hours at Carter Plantation because one groups is slowing doing everyone. If you have 8 minute tee time gaps, mismatched group numbers, marshalls doing the bare minimum, and groups teeing off as soon as the fairway is open on the first tee, you're going to get traffic jams. It's just like road traffic jams.

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I'm not getting the downvotes here.

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I’m a DOG at a high end club in AZ. I played pro and was a D1 player… I am the fastest player I know outside of a couple of my boys I gamble with who are 12’s and play in 3 hours.

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I would imagine that's why. If you start off the post bragging and refer to yourself as a DOG, you're probably a douche and deservedly get the downvotes.