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re: Switch looking more and more appealing: virtual console not available at launch
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:08 am to BulldogXero
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:08 am to BulldogXero
quote:Exactly what I'm doing. I don't see myself buying a switch until it's proven it's worth buying. Right now the only game I'd want to play is Zelda BOTW and I have a Wii U that can do that.
From what I have seen, the Wii U version is quite inferior to the Switch version. I would only by Breath of the Wild on the Wii U, if I simply was not planning on buying a Switch in the foreseeable future.
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:09 am to BulldogXero
quote:The latest footage of the Wii U version is from 9 months ago so I don't know how fair a comparison those screenshots and videos are. However, it will undoubtedly look better on the Switch. Nintendo has confirmed that. I'm fine with it. I don't plan on getting a Switch until there is something released on it that I want to play that can't be played elsewhere.
From what I have seen, the Wii U version is quite inferior to the Switch version.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:26 am to DelU249
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what is the standard for launch lineups? They're always thin
We've been over this.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:26 am to DelU249
Nintendo has a history of poor launch titles with it pretty much being one Mario or Zelda title and a bunch of shovelware alongside it.
The N64 sticks out to me because there was Mario, Waverace, and shite like Killer Instinct Gold and Cruizin USA which sold out just because of a lack of other choices.
Not that other launch title sets are much better but the massive sales of the AAA in house stuff and lackluster sales of third party stuff for Nintendo consoles tends to highlight it.
The N64 sticks out to me because there was Mario, Waverace, and shite like Killer Instinct Gold and Cruizin USA which sold out just because of a lack of other choices.
Not that other launch title sets are much better but the massive sales of the AAA in house stuff and lackluster sales of third party stuff for Nintendo consoles tends to highlight it.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:29 am to teke184
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Waverace
That game was so damn fun
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:36 am to teke184
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Not that other launch title sets are much better but the massive sales of the AAA in house stuff and lackluster sales of third party stuff for Nintendo consoles tends to highlight it.
Lets examine some of the PS4 launch lineup:
Assassin's Creed Black Flag: Major AAA franchise
Need for Speed Rivals: Racing
Knack: 3D Platformer
Killzone Shadow Fall: FPS
Battlefield 4: FPS
CoD Ghosts: FPS
DCUO: MMORPG
Madden/FIFA: Sports
Maybe not every game was a runaway critical success, but you had a wide variety of different types of games to choose from. It wasn't just one major title and a bunch of garbage.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:39 am to DelU249
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What's missing at launch is coming so it's no sweat off my back and they aren't core features but to make this as successful as it can be...those things need to be there eventually and sooner rather than later. By mid year, fall at the latest
consoles that do this are destined to hurt though:
The Gamecube - Small Disc, small lineup, no internet service like the xbox or ps2, smaller library, ended up losing the console generation
PS3 - Extremely expensive, way less launch titles for price point, network service inferior to 360, "caught up" but was still super hindered by the bad launch
XBONE - DRM (yes, this was taken away, but the perception of this hurt them big time in my opinion)
Switch - Barebones OS, very few launch titles, no online store, ?
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 9:42 am
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:42 am to BaddestAndvari
Two things killed the Gamecube more than anything else I think. 1) small proprietary disk format 2) weird controller.
No one wants to play Tony Hawk on a Gamecube pad, and the limited storage space of a Gamecube disk often meant games had to be shipped on two disks or corners had to be cut with respect to audio, FMV, or graphics quality.
I really don't think lack of online play hurt it that much considering online play was never that big on the PS2. You also had games like Phantasy Star Online which was a reason for people to buy the console.
No one wants to play Tony Hawk on a Gamecube pad, and the limited storage space of a Gamecube disk often meant games had to be shipped on two disks or corners had to be cut with respect to audio, FMV, or graphics quality.
I really don't think lack of online play hurt it that much considering online play was never that big on the PS2. You also had games like Phantasy Star Online which was a reason for people to buy the console.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:43 am to BulldogXero
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Maybe not every game was a runaway critical success, but you had a wide variety of different types of games to choose from. It wasn't just one major title and a bunch of garbage.
Exactly. Even if they had some older 3rd party titles just to have something to play, it might be forgivable. I Am Setsuna, just googled, and you can download it free for PC. I Am Goo is almost 10 years old. Their next big name release is in April, Mario Kart, and it's just a port.
There are people who are going to buy this regardless, but if I were on the fence, I'm leaning towards waiting a year so I can avoid the launch BS and Nintendo can quit pretending they can't make the Switch fast enough.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:45 am to BaddestAndvari
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XBONE - DRM (yes, this was taken away, but the perception of this hurt them big time in my opinion)
Took them forever to shake this one.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:52 am to BaddestAndvari
quote:that's news to me. they have an eshop setup based on the leaked footage and there are a couple of launch titles that are seemingly only available by download (I am setsuna)
no online store, ?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:55 am to sicboy
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I Am Setsuna, just googled, and you can download it free for PC
Where?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:58 am to sicboy
quote:this won't have any meat behind it until the holidays with the release of Mario...I've actually never bought a console at launch and this is why...they're all kind of weak, but I can't wait any longer for Zelda and the portability factor make this my first launch console.
Exactly. Even if they had some older 3rd party titles just to have something to play, it might be forgivable. I Am Setsuna, just googled, and you can download it free for PC. I Am Goo is almost 10 years old. Their next big name release is in April, Mario Kart, and it's just a port.
There are people who are going to buy this regardless, but if I were on the fence, I'm leaning towards waiting a year so I can avoid the launch BS and Nintendo can quit pretending they can't make the Switch fast enough.
speaking of I am setsuna, anyone here play this? definitely looks good. It's been forever since I played a new jrpg that wasn't a handheld.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:58 am to BulldogXero
quote:Considering this is during the day of Halo 2 on Xbox, I would say lack of online play hurt them in a bad way. Halo 2 carried Xbox Live to relevancy, and is one of the reasons Xbox and Xbox 360 (Halo 3) did some major work in the console war.
I really don't think lack of online play hurt it that much considering online play was never that big on the PS2.
Of course, it's balanced out now between PS4 and XBONE. I can't remember for sure if PS4 has an advantage still in sales or not.
Either way, Nintendo has been the bottom feeder since.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:01 am to sicboy
OH NOES YOU WONT BE ABLE TO PLAY SUPER MARIO WORLD FOR THE BILLIONTH TIME IN WEEK ONE!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:04 am to Greace
I don't know how legit that is. I just threw it in there as ammunition for my argument 
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:08 am to sicboy
The software is on the lighter side. But Fast RMX is suppose to be a good title its the sequel to Fast Racing Neo for the Wii U. And Shovel Knight is getting a time exclusive expansion
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:10 am to Dr RC
yea really. who cares. no one is buying the Switch Day 1 to play SNES games.
what a troll clickbait thread . looks like he got a bunch of bites somehow
what a troll clickbait thread . looks like he got a bunch of bites somehow
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:12 am to Dr RC
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OH NOES YOU WONT BE ABLE TO PLAY SUPER MARIO WORLD FOR THE BILLIONTH TIME IN WEEK ONE!!!!!!!!!
I am hoping for the gamecube games to be available though at some point this year luigis mansion
Mario sunshine
star fox adventure
these may as well be brand new games as far as i'm concerned.
then there's the star wars rogue squadron games, Metroid prime, and a couple of others I would love to be able to play anywhere.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:18 am to DelU249
Shoulda had a Cube back in the day mayne. That thing was all kinds of badass.
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