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Posted on 2/6/24 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 5:06 pm to
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I think they were down to around $330 a few months ago.


That's what I'm aiming for
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 5:09 pm to
Ok fellas, this may be a retarded question but I'm going to ask it anyway.

My 4080 Super has a 16pin (12VHPWR) slot. It comes with an adapter for (3) 8pin connections

My 1000W EVGA PSU came with (2) 8pin to 8 pin cables, as well as (2) 8pin to 2x 8pin (pigtail) cables

The 4080 Super advises that you use 3 separate cables with no pigtails. Is it safe for me to use the (2) 8 pin to 8 pins + (1) 8 pin to 2x 8pin and just leave the pigtail hanging?

I ordered a 12VHPR to 4x 8pin cable from Cablemod so this just has to hold me over until then.

Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

The 4080 Super advises that you use 3 separate cables with no pigtails. Is it safe for me to use the (2) 8 pin to 8 pins + (1) 8 pin to 2x 8pin and just leave the pigtail hanging?


Yep, it’s fine. They just don’t want you using two cables total instead of three.
Posted by gatordmb89
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:16 pm to
Damn. Wasting that 4080 on Warzone games with Rocky? Come put that thing to work in some real lobbies.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 8:18 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:06 am to
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4070Ti Super embargo lifted today, and it's pretty much what people expected. It's slightly better than the original 4070Ti at the same MSRP. That puts it very slightly behind, but basically on par with, the 7900XT in pure raster while performing significantly (15-20%) better in RT. Prices on the 7900XT had started to creep up to around $750 after that initial drop in response to the 4070S, and I would expect this to push those prices back down to the $715 range.

Ultimately, a pretty meh card to join the rest of the meh GPU generation. Maybe the 4080S will be interesting next week, but I doubt it. My sights are firmly on next gen.

But as always, anyone actually in need of an upgrade, by all means buy a card this gen. They aren't bad; they're just boring and not worth upgrading to if your current card is "good enough".



Looks like AMD is still fighting in this gen: 7900XT $699 Newegg

Still not exactly exciting, but if you're looking for a 1440p card for pure raster, I wouldn't argue with anyone for biting at that price point.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:34 am to
List so far

quote:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($385.90 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($279.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($1557.00 @ Amazon)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL III ATX Mid Tower Case ($144.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 GT 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($174.99 @ Best Buy)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $3172.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available



Any suggestions? One I'm really mulling over is the case. That BeQuiet 901 ( LINK) is so nice, but I'm just not sure it's worth 2x the price
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 10:25 am to
I am a fan of NZXT cases. I have the H7 flow, but the H9 is super nice.

NZXT H9 Flow

I like their fans too, but they seem to be sold out alot.
This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 10:27 am
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 10:39 am to
Cases are by far the most personal preference based part of a build. As long as the chosen case doesn’t objectively suck, it comes down to size and what you’re willing to pay as a premium for aesthetics.
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 10:42 am to
Agreed.


Not that it matters all that much but I do like the Lian LI Lancool III setup. I watched a few builds on youtube with the Lancool II and it looks like they improved it a bit.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 11:36 am to
Just looked at the list, and please don’t spend $1,600 on a 4080S
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 12:06 pm to
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Just looked at the list, and please don’t spend $1,600 on a 4080S




I didn't notice this earlier, but yeah.

Best Buy has 4090's in stock for $200 more.


Newegg has this 4080S in stock right now. Its not pretty, but its a 4080S.

$1149

This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 12:39 pm to
I already got one for $1029 from Best Buy (mentioned earlier in thread)

Just put it on the list for accuracy
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 12:40 pm to
Reading about boot times. Why in the world would it take a 7800X3D 40+ seconds to boot? My 9900K is on desktop in 16.5 seconds. People are saying it's just an AM5 thing. That seems insane to me
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 12:49 pm to
Yeah, memory training nonsense. It’s been discussed a fair bit on here.
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 1:59 pm to
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Yeah, memory training nonsense. It’s been discussed a fair bit on here.




I've been reading about this. Some board manufacturers have updated BIOS to cut down boot time. Also, some claim the memory frequency was an issue but I can't find anything current saying that this is still an issue.
Posted by Carson123987
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 2:29 pm to
Seems like enabling Memory Context Restore helps a lot. Seen it mentioned a bunch
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

I've been reading about this. Some board manufacturers have updated BIOS to cut down boot time. Also, some claim the memory frequency was an issue but I can't find anything current saying that this is still an issue.


Quirks like this are why, as tempting as it was, I decided to skip first gen AM5. The second iteration of boards and processors on each chipset tend to be much more smooth and refined. Not that AM5 has been bad by any stretch, but I don’t love paying a premium to deal with growing pains.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 2:51 pm to
When is 2nd Gen supposed to come out?
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 3:44 pm to
Takes my 7700X about 5 seconds. Update your bios. It only memory trains once unless you change a bunch of things/reset it.

AM5 growing pains haven't been a thing for quite awhile now, mid '23 or so. You're gonna have to really make sure you're reading CURRENT stuff only, it's very different since the big memory update back in October.
This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 5:01 pm to
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When is 2nd Gen supposed to come out?


Likely within the next 3-6 months, but x3D generally take longer.

There’s nothing wrong with jumping in now. There’s always something new around the bend. As UH said, it’s gotten much better, even if there are some settings tweaks you might need to do to unfrick the quirkiness.
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