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Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:13 am to
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:13 am to
Whoever does the returns at Best buy probably has no idea what they're even looking at, geek squad included.

I feel like microcenter employees should know
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 10:50 am to
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Open box - excellent. Funny thing it has a sticker that it was inspected and good to go. Impossible to miss that so clearly that's BS.


Jesus

Lot of issues with that lately, with Newegg being of particular note.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:43 pm to
Yeah I don't think any inspect and just slap approval on it. Most of the time at least.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 7:01 pm to
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Lot of issues with that lately, with Newegg being of particular note.

I wish PCPP would exclude Newegg since the mobo fiasco with Gamer Nexus.
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 10:33 pm to
Absolutely not. PCPP does it's job. It's up to the buyer to do their own research
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:02 am to
Super early, utterly unsubstantiated rumor at this point, but if true, would be catastrophic for the enthusiast PC gaming market over the next few years: Rumors suggest AMD might have canceled its Navi 41/42 high-end RDNA3 GPUs
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/5/23 at 4:01 pm to
New mobo looks good. Was actually sealed unlike the other one.

Plan to build tonight.
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 4:02 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/5/23 at 5:54 pm to
Not PC related but I ordered bamboo garden stakes for $30 from Amazon and I received a $550 Doona car seat stroller.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/8/23 at 2:20 am to
Booted up first try. Got done at 2am.

eta: had the latest f8A bios with the big ram update on a thumb drive, quick bios update and chipset update, EXPO, and 30-38-38 at 6000MHz stable right from the gate. Timed that right.

This post was edited on 8/8/23 at 3:09 am
Posted by LSUGent
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Posted on 8/8/23 at 9:03 am to
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Booted up first try. Got done at 2am.


Congrats! Share some pics
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/8/23 at 4:59 pm to
Well I was tinkering with ram and now it won't post. Hit reset cmos button a bunch of times and nothing.

Removed battery now we'll see if that resets it.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 8/8/23 at 5:17 pm to
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Well I was tinkering with ram and now it won't post. Hit reset cmos button a bunch of times and nothing.

Removed battery now we'll see if that resets it.


Reminder that AM5 has extremely long RAM training periods on first boot. I would give it a solid 10m before giving up on the boot cycle, unless you have indicator lights on your motherboard that's telling a different story.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/8/23 at 5:23 pm to
Yeah I knew about the long boot that took maybe 5 last night on very first boot.

I didn't think manual voltage and timings would reset that another 5-10 min though. Expo was coming in at 4800MHz.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/8/23 at 5:30 pm to
Thank God pulling battery worked. Back up and running.

This will be a learning process for sure.
This post was edited on 8/8/23 at 5:31 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 8/8/23 at 6:00 pm to
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Yeah I knew about the long boot that took maybe 5 last night on very first boot.

I didn't think manual voltage and timings would reset that another 5-10 min though. Expo was coming in at 4800MHz.


It's any "first boot". So any time you clear CMOS, you should expect to wait as long as you did that first time.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/8/23 at 7:38 pm to
Yeah I didn't clear cmos last night it just can't run the ram at its speed or timings.

Expo just gets me 4800MHz and manual just resets after it can't boot at 30-38-38 6000.

I'll try 5400 at those timings later and see if I can't get it close to 6K.

ETA: successful boot at the above timings at 5200MHz and 5400MHz and now 5600MHz. And now 6000MHz!

ETA2: Also just had Windows pop up saying it wasn't activated, I didn't clean install yet so it still had my key and brought up a window to choose 'I changed hardware recently' and it was able to activate from my old one quickly. Glad that is nice and easy now.
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 12:01 am
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:23 pm to
Booting is a good start, but make sure to run some extensive error testing with memtest and then check to make sure you aren’t throwing WHEA errors. RAM is finicky.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/13/23 at 3:03 am to
Finally had a night to do some overclocking and runs. Got the #3 7700X score with a 4070 and #7 overall with those two, time spy extreme.






Dialed in OC and took over the #1 spot for a 7700X paired with a 4070. 5500Ghz all core 1.270 PBO 90 level 1. #29 overall 7700X score. Large CPU lead here I took over with.

This post was edited on 8/13/23 at 3:33 am
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:30 am to
Odd that the total number of benchmark results are that low. I wonder if it's the 7700x driving that, the 4070, or both.

ETA: For context, for my hardware configuration (5800x and 3080) there are 12,096 results for TSE.

ETA: To answer my own question, looks like there have been 10,986 systems to run TSE with a 7700x and only 5,655 systems to run TSE with a 4070. So both on the low side, but the 4070 certainly being the lower of the two. But even still, apparently an unusual configuration in general, for some reason.
This post was edited on 8/13/23 at 2:36 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/13/23 at 3:27 pm to
4070 for sure.
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