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Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:49 am to
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:49 am to
Same keys that you'd get on cdkeys, ebay, etc

Edit: I haven't activated Windows in like 5-6 years
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 7:50 am
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:37 am to
I'm "trying" to be a responsible citizen now
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 7:10 am to
About to order me one of these:

Eluktronics
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:23 pm to
To jump from a 4070 to 4080 it's $500 and then another $500 to jump from a 4080 to 4090.

Woof, that's rough

And the 4070 is a huge disappointment. I'd just find a previous gen with a 3080 or 3080ti honestly
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 2:27 pm
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 3:41 pm to
The upgraded liquid cooling wouldn't be an option on an older model, unfortunately.

Would be nice if there was an option for a 3080 instead. I'd probably go for that like you said.
Posted by SpeedyNacho
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 12:02 pm to
I have the eluktronics prometheus from last year, and while Its nice for a laptop. I'd just wait to game until I got to my desktop.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 12:57 pm to
Kinguin for 30 bucks.

Just waiting for the rest.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 5:08 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 5:10 pm
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 5:59 pm to
quote:

I have the eluktronics prometheus from last year, and while Its nice for a laptop. I'd just wait to game until I got to my desktop.




I'm the opposite. I have a nice dual monitor set up and barely use it.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:21 am to
quote:

To jump from a 4070 to 4080 it's $500 and then another $500 to jump from a 4080 to 4090.

Woof, that's rough

And the 4070 is a huge disappointment. I'd just find a previous gen with a 3080 or 3080ti honestly


I'd honestly consider grabbing Intel's next gen arc card if their prices stay under 400.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:45 am to
7900XT down to $799.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 6:01 pm to
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7900XT down to $799.


I'll be curious to see if that moves the needle. If I'm throwing a dart, I think the 7900xt needs to get down to around $700 before people get excited about it. Most people consider the 4070ti to be woefully overpriced, and you can find that for $799 on occasion these days. This generation releases from both companies have been an embarrassment. Here's to hoping that they make some interesting moves during the mid-cycle refresh around the end of this year.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

Most people consider the 4070ti to be woefully overpriced, and you can find that for $799 on occasion these days


Yeah and it gets absolutely smashed by it. Nvidia will have to do something with the 4070ti and 4080 as they'll just sit more and more on shelves while AMD brings their prices down.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 9:12 pm to
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Yeah and it gets absolutely smashed by it.


Unless I'm misremembering, the 7900xt beats the 4070ti in raster by about 10% and loses to the 4070ti in RT by about 25%. Both are shite cards for $800; because of the feature set, the market will buy a 4070ti over a 7900xt at the same price point.

Prices need to come down on the 4070ti, the 4080, the 7900xt, and the 7900xtx. The only card currently released that is immune to price pressure is the 4090, and that's simply because it is far and away the most powerful card released thus far in this generation. It's still a shite value, but that's to be expected of halo cards. Everything else this gen fricking sucks.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 9:16 pm to
Haha I disagree. No one really cares about RT other than Nvidia fanboys because they lose everywhere else. It's so annoying when they go to that excuse when the community doesn't give a shite about RT at all but if you're less powerful and all you got to go anymore have at it. Linus covered this the other day switching to his all AMD setup and talking about how RT just isn't remotely worth it, never uses it, and said that's the majority of the communities feeling so spare us the 2020 Nvidia PR talk please. No one is paying $100+ for less performance just to get a little better RT, no one.

Those days are long gone.

Now AMD is right there with Nvidia for features and often times better. I think you're kinda dated these days with your glasses on.

$799 is a good spot for it, Nvidia needs to drop below though for sure. Then again maybe they like being the worst selling cards and sitting on shelves for months.

Oh and don't forget the 12GB of vram Nvidia continues to shite out. I member when people made excuses for all the 8GB 3000 series cards.
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 11:50 pm
Posted by hoojy
In the fridge with my hot sauce.
Member since Nov 2013
11532 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:44 pm to
This whole pc building bidness is jank. First time in several years, I got it done, but frick. There's a reason I give old hardware away when homey builds it for me.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19362 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:48 pm to
I get fricking annoyed when I see "raster" and "RT" but yet they mean different things

I'm a fricking boomer PCer and I'm barely 30
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 11:49 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69399 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:52 pm to
RT really has no business ever being mentioned on its own. It's such a mediocre feature anymore that many games still don't utilize at all and the ones that do aren't worth the performance hit. So very few people actually use it in the real world it's just fanboy chatter at this point. But when AMD consistently beats them at raster I guess you have to cling to something.

It's about equal to the real world use case of DLSS vs FSR being discernible side by side, you can't pick out which is which blind. The notion there is some huge difference between them to sway a purchase towards spending more money (for less performance) is hilarious and so misguided.
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 11:57 pm
Posted by hoojy
In the fridge with my hot sauce.
Member since Nov 2013
11532 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 1:10 am to
benchmark

Not too bad, 5600> at peak.
This post was edited on 3/4/23 at 1:40 am
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69399 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 1:22 am to
Very nice. You can get the 7700x for $299 right now on Amazon, excellent price to performance.
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