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Posted on 2/19/23 at 4:51 pm to
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 2/19/23 at 4:51 pm to
Going with a gen 4 pcie drive at first. I'll wait until the prices go down and more benefits with pcie 5.

crucial ps +

Got for 20 bucks cheaper than link earlier today tho.
This post was edited on 2/19/23 at 4:52 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 2/19/23 at 4:57 pm to
Unless you’re routinely moving massive files from one Gen 5 NVME to another, there’s just no reason for it at this point. The memory controllers have barely improved from Gen 3 to Gen 5. So there’s very little gained in random read/write between generations.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 2/19/23 at 5:31 pm to
Pcie5 drives still aren't out yet, I've been waiting for what feels like ages. Delayed twice now.

Microsoft direct storage uses every bit of the speed you can throw at it for gaming resulting in big gains in gaming.

Awesome new tech. Gen 4's aren't fast enough or made for it other than the Rocket G. They have to be built specifically for MS Direct Storage.
This post was edited on 2/19/23 at 5:40 pm
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 2/19/23 at 5:44 pm to
MSD's were hitting close to loading speeds on SATA vs NVME.

Not sure what they can actually achieve on regular parameters, but I think the tech is gonna be limited by consoles.

Nothing has jumped out on me in the most part. 4-5 years from now will probably be another story. By then, I'll be ready to upgrade.

Hell, I'm actually looking to downgrade from 7800X3d to 7700X. Not seeing the performance gain from a mid-grade gpu and a 1440P.
This post was edited on 2/19/23 at 5:47 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 2/19/23 at 6:08 pm to
I was talking about Windows 11's Direct Storage feature.

Big gaming gains.

One of the more exciting new gen PC gaming features.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 2/19/23 at 6:17 pm to
Still gonna be limited by consoles.

Unless you're counting a second or two on loading or way more by writing.

uber slow ssd vs recommended.


This post was edited on 2/19/23 at 6:19 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 2/19/23 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

I was talking about Windows 11's Direct Storage feature. Big gaming gains. One of the more exciting new gen PC gaming features.


Direct Storage is indeed a big deal going forward. There’s simply zero evidence thus far that the increases in sequential read/write are going to matter very much. Until random read/write improves, an NVME is going to be an NVME, for the most part:

LINK
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 2/19/23 at 8:48 pm to
Yeah it's exciting, will be interesting to see when the pcie5 drives finally drop what that ~14K nearly double to 2.5x of old gen can do with it.

Here's a really good read up on the new tech

That new Sabrent Gaming Gen4 sees incredible results and is now the top dog for gen4 storage instantly. Can only imagine with nearly double the bandwidth on pcie5 what that tech is gonna do. Smooth as butta with no dips at all.




This post was edited on 2/19/23 at 9:01 pm
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 7:56 am to
quote:

I was talking about Windows 11's Direct Storage feature.



So was I, but I hit the S before the D.

There isn't much difference between the loading times. Streaming could be a big thing, but consoles will still hold it back. It's a ps6 and xbox what the ever they're gonna call it thing. Next gen.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 10:48 am to
It might come to consoles eventually yeah.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

Hell, I'm actually looking to downgrade from 7800X3d to 7700X. Not seeing the performance gain from a mid-grade gpu and a 1440P.


Do you mean 5800x3D to 5700x?

I feel like I just woke up from a coma
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 6:01 am to
I worded that very poorly.

I meant buying a 7700x over a 7800x3d instead.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 7:59 am to
Ah, ok. That makes more sense
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:11 am to
What do you AMD guys use to verify your PBO2/Curve Optimizer Stability?

I've been playing with my 5700x the last few weeks since installing it, and I can get down to -28 on all cores, and set my 2 best to -25, and its stable in every day use and gaming, but when I go to Core Cycler or Prime 95, my best core only gets stable at -7, which seems like a crazy big shift.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:44 am to
It’s honestly frustrating as shite, and there’s no real good answer. To the point that I don’t mess with it much anymore. I just set the worst known good value (usually -5 to -7), set that to all cores, and move on with life. Just not worth the aggravation for me.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 5:41 pm to
Speaking of exciting new cutting edge tech.


Beta BIOS Lets You Prioritize CCDs on AMD's 7000X3D CPUs

quote:

Twitter user HXL (@9550pro) has shared screen shots(opens in new tab) from a new Asus X670 Beta BIOS (version 0921 to be precise) that show a number of advanced settings you can use to control the X3D cores. These images appear to have first s(opens in new tab)hown up on Asus' forums. These settings include a number of different algorithm conditions and actions that can trigger the correct CCD core. HXL notes that, since these settings are built into the BIOS, they are OS agnostic.



Great great news!

This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 5:43 pm
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:36 am to
Got the front end and filter for the 5000D for my case to make it an airflow in the front. Also ordered an RMX 850 switch while I was at it.

The only things left are the cpu and mobo.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:34 am to
frick it.

Went ahead and ordered this.

Everything should be in soon.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 11:34 am
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:48 am to
Got the USB to download windows, just need the link. That and a good key site.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 11:49 am
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:53 pm to
PC World has legit SW keys for $20-40.

Just buy one from there.
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