re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Next Sunday? Jesus

What about this one? It looks close enough to the same: ARCTIC P12 PWM - 120 mm Case Fan with PWM, Pressure-optimised, Very Quiet Motor, Computer, Fan Speed: 200-1800 RPM - Black LINK

Ok. I’m very interested in either building or buying a PC. i mainly play COD, Apex, and Rocket League. Looking in the $1500-$2000 price range. I have no idea how to build a PC, what should i get?

AMD bundle 6900Xt with the 58003XD for 1028$

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AMD bundle 6900Xt with the 58003XD for 1028$

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Forgot about that bundle. I would definitely swap that in.

First leaked benchmarks (embargo doesn't lift for another few days) have come out, and results are a bit mixed: LINK

Both the XT and XTX perform as well or better than the 4080 in Fire Strike (DX 11), but both lag behind a bit in Time Spy (DX 12). Though there are some slight oddities in the number scaling, so I'm curious to see more legit benchmark runs. And obviously everyone expects the 4080 to blow both cards away in raytraced performance, but we'll have to wait on that as well.

My current reaction is that neither card is priced particularly excitingly. They are both priced marginally better than the 4080 (taking into consideration the 4080's expected far better raytraced performance), but the market has already spoken quite clearly that it considers the 4080's pricing to be utter bullshite. And considering all three cards significantly lag behind the 4090, which doesn't even use the entire die and is likely to be significantly supplanted later in the cycle by a TI variant, all of the releases thus far this cycle have been a bit meh for me. Great performance, but pricing is just fricked. Team Red's pricing is a little less fricked, but still fricked, in my opinion.

Unless reviewer benchmarks tell a markedly different story, I'll likely just stick with my 3080 for a while longer and re-evaluate when the cycle has a refresh at some point.

Caveat: this is coming from the perspective of someone who already has a fully built system and would be considering an upgrade. If you're building new, there's nothing inherently wrong with any of these cards beyond pricing being shitty. If I had to build now, I would likely do one of the 5800x3d/6950XT bundles as the best price to performance ratio right now on GPUs. But if you don't mind spending a few hundred extra and getting a bit worse frame per dollar in order to get better performance, there's nothing wrong with that position, either.

Sunday update.

Fan came in. Took brackets off old fan and installed this one on the cooler. Seems to run wonderfully. I'm monitoring my temps which seem fine.

Only way to make sure no more overheating is to try to game on it I guess

I feel like I slapped a flexseal patch on the titanic and it's only a matter of time

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And it's more like you slapped a patch on the little dingy you were looking to replace anyway, but now you've bought yourself enough time to purchase a better replacement instead of having to take whatever was available at the moment

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Fair enough

I gamed on it for awhile last night. No issues. I'm apparently lucky as hell with breaking that one particular pin.

Might start a fresh build at the new year.

These overclocks are fricking nuts. 3.5-3.7GHz? I thought they were going to struggle to hit 3GHz due to an issue with board power.

I wonder if the 7950 will be able to hit 4GHz on water? Imagine the 3D infinity cache scaling at those clocks.

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Twitter fellow, 0x22h, has been testing around with an AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT graphics card and it looks like he has managed to obtain the fastest overclocking speeds with the Navi 31 chip. The RX 7900 XT was overclocked to a maximum 3.5 GHz shader clock and a 3.7 GHz Front End Clock. That's a 1.2 GHz increase in the Front End and Shader Clocks which is very impressive. The card peaked at a maximum board power of 400W, 45W higher than its 355W TGP and the temperatures stabilized around 62C and 85C for the Hot Spot temps. With this impressive overclock, the GPU delivered FP 32 compute performance rated at up to 75 TFLOPs, a 44% increase over the stock clocked graphics card.

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Reviews today all seem to show the XTX = 4080 basically in 1440p and slightly better in 4k (<5%). Not quite as big a win for AMD as I expected but a win nonetheless priced at $999 vs. $1199 for 4080. Nvidia will have to lower the price of the 4080 by at least $100 if not the full $200 even with RT advantage.

I expected the XTX to slot more in-between the 4080 and 4090 than it did, but just cant have it all. Wonder what AMD can do with a 7950 XT(X)?

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After looking at a few reviews, I'm left exactly where I was after their keynote: meh. Very, very meh. The 4080 and XTX basically trade blows in rasterization depending on resolution and individual game, with the XTX getting a very slight overall edge. The 4080, as expected, demolishes the XTX in RT performance. When you combine RT performance, an edge with DLSS over FSR, and just generally more stable drivers, I'm not sure if the 4080 is worth $200 more than the XTX, but it's probably worth a solid $100 or so more.

So if the 4080 is an utter pricing disaster, the XTX is still a pricing embarrassment. I'm not interested in either card, at all. I'm going to be sitting tight with my 3080 until we see a mid-cycle refresh and then re-examine from there. Sucks that both companies are being so shitty with pricing, because the performance gains generation over generation would have been really exciting, otherwise.

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Pretty much. The 7950XTX will be the = 4090. I would assume the xx50 stays around as the top one for amd.

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If the 7950XTX is aiming at the 4090, it means AMD is ceding the halo product crown this generation, as the 4090 is a cut down die by... I think it was about 12%? Assuming they don't run into production issues, I would expect to see a 4090ti at some point with a 5-8% uplift over the current 4090.