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Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:26 pm to
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:26 pm to
I think this is what you want.

LINK

Also. Not completely opposed to a fresh ground up build. I wondered if I need a full size case
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:11 pm to
wut

What do you play, at what resolution and settings? What’s your budget range, low and high? Do you have any specific needs?

Eta: I didn’t mean pc case; I meant usage case as in how you use your PC
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 9:16 am
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 1:39 pm to
My God

Game wise I'm all over the board. Indie games with low requirements. Call of Duty. Dabbling with various MMOs. Anything.

Computer mainly for casual gaming. Resolution is 1080. No real needs I can think of.

Budget wise is flexible. I guess it depends. Would like to spend less than $1000 on everything.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 5:35 pm to
$1,000 for a new build is tough, but it can be done. This is what I just threw together:

PCPartPicker Part List: LINK

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($136.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: SK Hynix Gold P31 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($83.39 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750x (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $990.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-21 18:32 EST-0500

Down the road, if you find yourself CPU bound, you'll get a significant performance jolt by slotting in a 5800x3D. And while 750w PSU is a touch lower than would be my ideal, it's plenty for this build and gives you enough room for GPU upgrades in the future, even if it would preclude you from upgrading to the most power hungry GPUs.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 7:51 pm to
So if I focus on mobo, processor, and video card:

AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($136.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)

Is that feasible if I keep my original ram and psu? I guess that's all else right?

SSD may be nice instead of HDD though...

That's still like $700ish
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:48 pm to
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SSD may be nice instead of HDD though...


If you're still on spinning rust, let's please fix that asap

As for the rest, post the specs/skus of all of your current components. I'll see if we can salvage anything, and if so, we can make some decisions either on saving money or upgrading components a bit while still staying within your price target.

Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 9:09 pm to
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If you're still on spinning rust, let's please fix that asap


I've got an SSD where my OS is running essentially. Games have been running off of HDD.

Currently rocking:

quote:

AMD FX-8350 4 GHz 8-Core Processor

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler

Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal

Crucial MX100 256 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

Fractal Design Define R4 ATX Mid Tower Case

EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G1 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully
Modular ATX Power Supply

Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer

Asus MX279H 27.0" 1920 x 1080 Monitor

NVIDIA GTX 980

16 GB Ram
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 9:21 pm to
Oh right, the CPU you broke. I remember now

From that list, we should save the case, the PSU, and I suppose the SSD (it can be the target of a future upgrade). Your RAM is DDR3, so it unfortunately can't be brought forward.

That would leave you with this:

PCPartPicker Part List: LINK

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($136.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: SK Hynix Gold P31 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($79.64 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $796.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-21 22:19 EST-0500

Now, I'll reiterate what I said last time: if it's me, I'm trying to hold off until the end of 23Q1 before I build, as I think there's going to be a lot of value to be had then. But, if you want to pull the trigger now, the above is what I would do with your usage case and price point.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 7:37 am to
Thank you for the info. I will likely hold off, but wanted to get an idea.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 7:56 am to
You're very welcome. And just to reiterate, the reason I'm suggesting people wait is that we are right on the edge of a chipset shift, from AM4 to AM5. The latter has already been released, but prices are still very, very high. You can't put together a passable AM5 build for less than $1,000 right now. But, I think prices for AM5 motherboards and DDR5 RAM are on their way down, and if you can get into AM5 at your current budget, you will have the opportunity for massive upgrades for the next half decade without having to upgrade your platform.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:43 am to
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But, I think prices for AM5 motherboards and DDR5 RAM are on their way down, and if you can get into AM5 at your current budget, you will have the opportunity for massive upgrades for the next half decade without having to upgrade your platform.


Sold me
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 12/24/22 at 9:52 am to
If someone had told me a few months ago that I would (theoretically) be able to talk into BestBuy on Christmas Eve and buy a 4080FE, I would have thought they were insane. Jesus, Nvidia fricked up on that one

7900XT isn't available locally for me, though that looks like more of a supply issue. You've been able to buy it directly from AMD for MSRP pretty much 24/7, so it's basically in the same boat as the 4080 as a pricing frick up.

4090 and 7900XTX appear to be sold out everywhere, as expected. Still disappointed on the price of both, though. But both are the clear "value" over their lower positioned counterparts.
This post was edited on 12/24/22 at 9:58 am
Posted by tharre4
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:08 am to
I want to get away from the console wars and want the abilty to play some PC games and mod them occasionally. the catch is I would want to have a setup similar to a console where i can play with a controller from bed on my TV. any suggestions for a modest setup that would suit my needs?

TIA.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:19 am to
quote:

I want to get away from the console wars and want the abilty to play some PC games and mod them occasionally. the catch is I would want to have a setup similar to a console where i can play with a controller from bed on my TV. any suggestions for a modest setup that would suit my needs?

TIA.


Not really a catch. Any modern Windows based system will pair a bluetooth Xbox controller in seconds and work flawlessly. I keep one in my desk for the random platformer that players better with a controller than kb/m.

With that said, you'll need to give more detail than "modest". What do you want to play? At what resolution and settings? What is both the low and the high of the range you are looking to spend? Prebuilt or are you willing to build it yourself?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:11 am to
You can buy adapters that plug into your USB port as well
Posted by tharre4
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:18 am to
guess I'm looking at around $1000. I play on a OG PS4 right now so i don't need it to perform that much better than what i'm used too. i like to play Battlefield, War zone, Total War games, Minecraft. just as long as it runs smoothly at decent settings. Prebuilt or DIY? thats part of my question i suppose. IDK.
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 11:13 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

guess I'm looking at around $1000. I play on a OF PS4 rightnow so i dont need it to perform that much better than what i'm used too. i like to play Battlefield, Warzone, Total War games, Minecraft. just as long as it runs smoothly at decent settings. Prebuilt or DIY? thats part of my question i suppose. IDK.


My advice to most people looking to build lately has been to hold off until the middle/end of 23Q1, and I think that holds for you as well. Now, if you desperately need to build immediately, we can talk about it, but I would hold off if I could.
Posted by tharre4
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 7:10 am to
quote:

My advice to most people looking to build lately has been to hold off until the middle/end of 23Q1


I'm ignorant. Why would this be the case? I've had my PS4 since 2013, I'm certainly in no rush.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

I'm ignorant. Why would this be the case? I've had my PS4 since 2013, I'm certainly in no rush.


We are right on the edge of a chipset shift, from AM4 to AM5. The latter has already been released, but prices are still very, very high. You can't put together a passable AM5 build for less than $1,000 right now. But, I think prices for AM5 motherboards and DDR5 RAM are on their way down, and if you can get into AM5 at your current budget, you will have the opportunity for massive upgrades for the next half decade without having to upgrade your platform. GPU prices are also likely to come down a bit by the end of 23Q1.
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 8:08 am to
Looking at finally finishing my budget HTPC to go to my living room TV. I have the ITX case, PSU, DDR4 RAM and SSD, just need to get the CPU, mobo and video card... the vital pieces

Looking at going with the ryzen 5 5500 and 6600 XT. Not great 4k performance, but it'll mainly just be for emulation anyway
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