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Posted on 5/28/19 at 8:38 am to
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 8:38 am to
About $100 cheaper, but I got a better cooler, better ram, likely better motherboard and PSU

PCPartPicker Part List: LINK

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($359.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D14 64.95 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z370-A II ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.89 @ B&H)
Memory: Team - Dark 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - SU655 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Video Card ($669.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - P300 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($74.35 @ Amazon)
Total: $1544.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-28 09:37 EDT-0400
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 8:40 am to
PCPartPicker Part List: LINK

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($399.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.97 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - Z390-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial - P1 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($66.85 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING OC WHITE Video Card ($699.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Corsair)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($33.89 @ Amazon)
Total: $1645.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-28 09:40 EDT-0400
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 8:43 am to
quote:

but I got a better cooler, better ram, likely better motherboard and PSU



I've looked at those in the store and they are atrocious. They are usually the intel stock fan.

Should he wait for the new Ryzen CPU's to come out? They are actually very good apparently.

eta actually the one he showed has a AIO liquid cooler.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 8:45 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19362 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 8:47 am to
quote:

actually the one he showed has a AIO liquid cooler.


It's a single 120mm cooler that's likely a POS
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 8:52 am to
ew. just saw that
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
40082 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:04 am to


you guys crack me up. i appreciate the effort guys. i'm considering upgrading now. i'll keep these in mind.

i do have a question about RAM though. what do i need to look for in good RAM? i'm not one that digs into what makes the computer tick. i wouldn't notice what good RAM and bad RAM does based on what happens on screen. everything else (cpu, gpu, HDD/SDD) is pretty obvious to me.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19362 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:12 am to
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i'm not one that digs into what makes the computer tick


Then you definitely dont need to spend the extra money on K series processors.

But for the ram, mostly just good timings and high speeds
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
40082 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:13 am to
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mostly just good timings and high speeds

but what does this mean?


eta:

quote:

Then you definitely dont need to spend the extra money on K series processors.


i don't really have a reason as to why, but i feel like i prefer AMD anyway. what ryzen series would you think i should get? 5? 7? is there a 8 already?
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 9:15 am
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:15 am to
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Then you definitely dont need to spend the extra money on K series processors.


That's why I went with the lower fan for cooling as likely they weren't going to utilize the potential OC but just went with the K for future proofing if they wanted to dabble then they can upgrade.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:16 am to
quote:

AMD anyway. what ryzen series would you think i should get? 5? 7? is there a 8 already?


Their new CPU's are coming out soon. I think July? They are supposed to be pretty beastly.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54363 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 10:43 am to
quote:



you guys crack me up. i appreciate the effort guys. i'm considering upgrading now. i'll keep these in mind.

i do have a question about RAM though. what do i need to look for in good RAM? i'm not one that digs into what makes the computer tick. i wouldn't notice what good RAM and bad RAM does based on what happens on screen. everything else (cpu, gpu, HDD/SDD) is pretty obvious to me.


LINK

Something like that will work for you just fine. DDR4 3000/3200 is more than adequate.

EDIT: With memory, your concerned about frequency, and CAS latency mainly. For brands, I'm partial to Kingston/HyperX and Corsair.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 10:44 am
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54363 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 10:45 am to
quote:

Motherboard: MSI - Z390-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)


Would not recommend this if your going for overclocking.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69399 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 10:46 am to
G. Skill is my favorite.

TridentZ CL14 3200 Samsung B die is still the goat.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 10:46 am
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54363 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 10:47 am to
quote:

i don't really have a reason as to why, but i feel like i prefer AMD anyway. what ryzen series would you think i should get? 5? 7? is there a 8 already?


Ryzen 5 is the best bang for buck IMO. An Intel 8400/9400 and 9600k will probably beat it in some titles, but all Ryzen processors are unlocked, and if Ryzen 3000 series gives decent improvement on overclocking, a Ryzen 5 3XXX processor will probably beat those.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 10:47 am
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54363 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 10:47 am to
quote:

TridentZ CL14 3200 Samsung B die is still the goat.


Prices for that memory months ago were just nuts.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69399 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 10:49 am to
Yeah luckily I got mine long ago before the crazy prices.

ETA: I paid $109 for 16GB of it in 2016
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 10:53 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19362 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:14 am to
I've seen some b dies going for ~$100 recently. Doesn't hynix have their CJR dies that compete closely with the b dies now?
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
40082 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 11:19 am to
quote:

EDIT: With memory, your concerned about frequency, and CAS latency mainly. For brands, I'm partial to Kingston/HyperX and Corsair.

can you dumb that down some more and relate it to something else i might be familiar with?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:05 pm to
Get reputable brands and the speed to price you are comfortable with.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
40082 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:41 pm to
How would you guys rank brands (1-3)?

GPU
MOBO
RAM
HDD/SDD
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