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Posted on 5/26/19 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 5/26/19 at 9:35 pm to
Y'all watching the AMD Computex thingy?

Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/26/19 at 9:47 pm to
5700 series Navi cards at or slightly above 2070 performance for significantly less.

Should sell very well.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 5/26/19 at 9:50 pm to
That game already favored AMD though.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 5/26/19 at 9:51 pm to
Well that's why I said at or slightly above, since that was about 10% more perf. Can usually pinpoint the performance within that percentage for most games.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/26/19 at 10:12 pm to
Zen 2 15% IPC boost over Zen+.

Just 65w for the 8/16 3700X.

Lol I like how she is acting like it's some big reveal and it's been leaked and talked about for weeks.

$499 for highest end 3900X, on sale July 7th.
This post was edited on 5/26/19 at 10:29 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/26/19 at 10:28 pm to
Uh oh, intel gonna be feeling the heat.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/26/19 at 10:35 pm to
I find it interesting they didn't reveal or say anything about the 16 core though.

There are rumors that they are killing Threadripper and merging it all together so maybe they are waiting to reveal it later.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:12 am to
I'm curious about the Ryzen 7 3800X. What does the TDP difference give you over the 3700X?

And it costs about $60-70 more.
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:13 am to
quote:

5700 series Navi cards at or slightly above 2070 performance for significantly less.

Should sell very well.


Lets slow down here until we get official benchmarks from 3rd parties instead of AMD themselves
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 12:38 pm to
I wouldn't necessarily say that, what matters more is how much Nvidia adjusts the price of the 2070 to compete.

We won't know any of the details until the full reveal June 10th.
This post was edited on 5/27/19 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

I find it interesting they didn't reveal or say anything about the 16 core though.

I'm sure a 3950X is coming.
The 3600 and 3600X were announced too but weren't shown for some reason. They'll be $200 and $250.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/27/19 at 6:23 pm to
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 8:30 am to
hey fellas. a buddy of mine bought this ibuypowerpc computer from best buy over the weekend. it seemed to run pretty smoothly, but we didn't stress it out by no means. i'm curious if it's possible to build this same computer at a cheaper price.

Best Buy

quote:

Windows 10 operating system
Windows 10 brings back the Start menu from Windows 7 and introduces new features, such as the Edge web browser that lets you mark up web pages on your screen. Learn more ›

8th-generation Intel® Core™ i7-8700K processor
Smart six-core, twelve-way processing performance. The Intel Turbo Boost technology delivers dynamic extra power when you need it, while increasing energy efficiency when you don't.

16GB system memory for intense multitasking and gaming
Reams of high-bandwidth DDR4 RAM let you smoothly run your graphics-heavy PC games and video-editing applications as well as numerous programs and browser tabs at the same time.

1TB solid-state drive of storage space
The solid-state drive provides ample storage and speed.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 graphics
Driven by 8GB dedicated video memory, quickly render high-quality images for videos and games.

Four USB 3.1 ports maximize high-speed devices
It also includes two USB 2.0 ports to connect more accessories and peripherals. The USB 3.1 ports are backward compatible with USB 2.0 devices (at 2.0 speeds).

Next-generation wireless connectivity and wired network connectivity
Connects to your network or hotspots on all current Wi-Fi standards. Connect it to a Wireless-AC router for speed nearly 3x faster than Wireless-N. Includes a LAN port for wired networks.

Multidisplay capability
Connect one monitor, or add a second monitor to double your viewing space for work and games (monitors are sold separately).

Additional ports
Including an HDMI output for a high-definition monitor or HDTV, one DVI port, one DisplayPort, three audio outputs, two PS/2 ports.

Note: This computer does not include a built-in DVD/CD drive.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 8:38 am to
About $100 cheaper, but I got a better cooler, better ram, likely better motherboard and PSU

PCPartPicker Part List: LINK

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($359.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D14 64.95 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z370-A II ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.89 @ B&H)
Memory: Team - Dark 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - SU655 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Video Card ($669.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - P300 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($74.35 @ Amazon)
Total: $1544.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-28 09:37 EDT-0400
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22160 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 8:40 am to
PCPartPicker Part List: LINK

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($399.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.97 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - Z390-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial - P1 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($66.85 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING OC WHITE Video Card ($699.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Corsair)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($33.89 @ Amazon)
Total: $1645.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-28 09:40 EDT-0400
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22160 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 8:43 am to
quote:

but I got a better cooler, better ram, likely better motherboard and PSU



I've looked at those in the store and they are atrocious. They are usually the intel stock fan.

Should he wait for the new Ryzen CPU's to come out? They are actually very good apparently.

eta actually the one he showed has a AIO liquid cooler.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 8:45 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 8:47 am to
quote:

actually the one he showed has a AIO liquid cooler.


It's a single 120mm cooler that's likely a POS
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22160 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 8:52 am to
ew. just saw that
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35589 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:04 am to


you guys crack me up. i appreciate the effort guys. i'm considering upgrading now. i'll keep these in mind.

i do have a question about RAM though. what do i need to look for in good RAM? i'm not one that digs into what makes the computer tick. i wouldn't notice what good RAM and bad RAM does based on what happens on screen. everything else (cpu, gpu, HDD/SDD) is pretty obvious to me.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 9:12 am to
quote:

i'm not one that digs into what makes the computer tick


Then you definitely dont need to spend the extra money on K series processors.

But for the ram, mostly just good timings and high speeds
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