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Posted on 10/18/15 at 8:35 pm to
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 8:35 pm to
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I think the Witcher series is my next big series to tackle

The White Wolf is now my favorite fictional character of all time.

Never really got into 2 because of game play, but W3 has brought me around to hold the Switcher series as one of the best universes in video games.

This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 8:47 pm
Posted by Devious
Elitist
Member since Dec 2010
29181 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:36 pm to
I've thought about reading the books until I read a few interviews with the author. Dude is a complete arse. He's very protective of his work and tried to distance it from the games.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:45 pm to
Seriously though, if the gameplay of either of the first two games ends up turning you off, don't write off the series completely. Just abandon those games, watch a 5-10 minute video recap on YouTube, or spend a couple hours watching a cut-scene movie, and dive into 3. Like Coyote, I couldn't finish the second one, but the third one is easily in my top 10 games of the last decade.

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I've thought about reading the books until I read a few interviews with the author. Dude is a complete arse. He's very protective of his work and tried to distance it from the games.


I read one interview about that, and it just seemed to me that he's just disconnected from video games and video game culture, has no interest in it and has the same preconception about them as any other run-of-the-mill literature snob. He doesn't dislike the Witcher games. He's just ignorant of the story-telling ability of video games because he's ignorant of video games. Writing is his craft, so naturally he puts it above all other media.

I'm sure it kind of irks him to have a "fan base" that hasn't read a single word he's written. And the fact that Geralt the video game character is probably more popular than the Geralt the book character.

It's best not to learn anything about an author you like, because they're all pretty terrible in some way or another.
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 10:01 pm
Posted by Devious
Elitist
Member since Dec 2010
29181 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:51 pm to
I played through DA2. I can handle the Witcher's quirks.

I started the first one a while back but got sidetracked. Once I finish the Metro series, it's next.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18270 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 11:50 pm to
I'm having a really weird problem with my modem/router right now.

My modem (surfboard 6121) boots up and runs perfectly, but the second I connect it to router or PC, it isntantly drops all of its connections. I've tried using 2 routers and went a bought a brand new modem, but I'm still having the same problems. I called cox to see if it was something on their end, but they're saying everything is working fine.

Google hasn't helped a damn bit
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 7:03 am to
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've thought about reading the books until I read a few interviews with the author. Dude is a complete arse. He's very protective of his work and tried to distance it from the games.

I've purchased a few of the audio books, haven't started a single one yet but looking forward to it.

Have any of you guys watched the 90s TV show?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35658 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 7:13 am to
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I called cox


Cox sucks so bad. I
'm paying for 100 down/20 up and am constantly getting download speeds below 5 mbps. They are useless when it comes to fixing the problem.
Posted by StickyFingaz
Austin
Member since May 2013
13483 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:02 am to
Ok guys... I've decided to give in and buy my first gaming PC. My plan is to order it and have the company build it and ship it off. Looking to run some MOBA's; RPG's; Minecrack and maybe a few more things here and there. I primarily play XB1 and have always been a console gamer. Can you outstanding ppl point me in a direction on important components (i.e. Things I shouldn't skimp on).

I would like to order on Black Friday and my budget is firm at $1000
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 11:16 am to
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My plan is to order it and have the company build it and ship it off


What company? Hopefully you're talking about the build services NCIX and maybe Fry's offer, and not Cyberpowerpc and the like. You should never buy prebuilt unless you're spending big bucks on a PC from a boutique builder like Puget, Falcon, Origin, Digital Storm, etc.

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I would like to order on Black Friday

Black Friday is not an especially prime day for gaming PCs. BF focuses on more mainstream goods. You might catch a few dollars off an SSD or something, but not necessarily from the company you want to order from, and not necessarily a discount worth waiting for. Most likely not. I'd just order it when you want it.


Also, you don't need much to play MOBAs and minecraft. RPGs, that depends on whether you're trying to play Witcher 3 or something older. A properly balanced $1,000 gaming PC should have the following, in order of importance.

~$300 graphics card like a GTX 970 or R9-390
Intel Core i5, either Devil's Canyon or Skylake
8GB of RAM (not 16, because that probably means something else was needlessly sacrificed)
120-250GB SSD and some HDD storage (like a 1TB WD Caviar Blue)
Some decent value-oriented aftermarket cooling for the CPU, like a hyper 212
adequate PSU (important regardless)

That will cover anything you ever want to play.
This post was edited on 10/19/15 at 5:05 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 3:40 pm to
Purchased a Steam Link today after the first waves of reviews posted this weekend.

Anyone else interested as well?
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:41 pm to
Looks like a great product, but I don't know if I'd use it. I basically live in the bedroom, where the computer, TV, and my office supplies are. All I'd need is a fridge and microwave and I'd be all set for dorm life.

When I'm in the living room, it's with family so gaming takes place. Maybe I could get a wireless controller and game from bed on the TV, but it's within a 10-foot HDMI cable's distance to the PC already.
Posted by StickyFingaz
Austin
Member since May 2013
13483 posts
Posted on 10/20/15 at 11:28 pm to
I will more than likely get into some FPS, also.

What is so bad about cyberpower? I have a 2 friends that got their computers from there and they seem to work fine. What are better alternatives?

ETA Thanks for the response. I have a basic knowledge of what all I need, but am not up to date with all the different models.
This post was edited on 10/20/15 at 11:31 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:38 am to
Cyberpower isn't awful if you know how to configure properly, but some of their baseline default builds (which people tend to blindly select based on price) are very poorly configured for gaming. There's a decent selection of components there, but you'll just pay more than you would if you built it yourself. Even still, they operate on low margin and don't assemble with the same level of care that even a meticulous, determined beginner might do. I also hate how they push those bottom-of-the-barrel liquid cooling systems as default options in a lot of their builds, and all of the less-expensive case options are just plain ugly.

That said, their Z170 default builds are configured decently in terms of a proper balance of hardware-- except for the crappy liquid cooler, cheap-looking LED-happy case, the stock GPU blower, the non-branded default PSU selection, and the lack of SSD unless you pay extra. These are things that contribute to a $1,000 build feeling and sounding "cheap" compared to a custom build on the same budget. I did help someone on here select some Cyberpower parts the other day. Undoubtedly he ignored that help completely, but I already knew him to be pretty stubborn and not too bright, based on his tech board post history.

I'm of the opinion that if you can competently select components on a website for a properly balanced gaming build, you can probably put the thing together yourself anyway. I've walked a lot of people through the entire build process, but if you possess the fundamental skill of being able to follow directions (from a video tutorial, for example), that's all you need. That, and a screwdriver.
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 12:41 am
Posted by StickyFingaz
Austin
Member since May 2013
13483 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 7:29 am to
Good stuff

I have no doubt I could do it myself, but finding time will be the problem. I noticed you can select a default build and then change any components you want... Maybe in a week or 2 I will put up the build and you could advise me on what I should change?

I will kick around the idea of building it myself... I assume the best one stop shop is newegg? I guess I will compare the prices and see if it's worth me putting it together myself.
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:50 pm to
I hate Newegg with a blind passion, Amazon and Tiger Direct (which I also don't care for) parts picker will give you the best prices and where to buy from. If it's not a liquid cooling build then you can put it together in 2-4 hours for a first build.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:54 pm to
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I have no doubt I could do it myself, but finding time will be the problem.


A Saturday, that's all it takes. I have the DIY mentality, so if I think I can do something myself, I'm gonna at least attempt it--with the exception of things that seem like a total beating (HVAC work in the attic in summer, for instance) or stuff that makes little sense to DIY (like changing my oil). Between Google searches and Youtube videos, there are very few things you can't learn how to do passably.

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I assume the best one stop shop is newegg?

Not really. If I had to pick a single store (and I often do), I'd go with Amazon. Shipping times are consistent, and returns are as easy as they come. But, you can often save a few more dollars by using multiple stores, with the help of pcpartpicker.com. Sometimes I just configure builds using Amazon and Newegg only. Between those two, you're bound to get a decent setup for a fair price.
Posted by Devious
Elitist
Member since Dec 2010
29181 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 2:55 pm to
I want to scrap my build and start over
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:21 am to
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I want to scrap my build and start over

What was the build?
Posted by Devious
Elitist
Member since Dec 2010
29181 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:46 am to
Fx8350
Gigabyte 990fx ud5 mobo
970 ssc

Nothing fancy

I just miss buying stuff and putting in new parts

I'm not really gonna scrap it
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 11:47 am to
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Gigabyte 990fx ud5 mobo

I'll give you that board. I have one in the closet.

EDT: Contact me on Steam.
This post was edited on 10/22/15 at 11:51 am
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