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Posted on 6/11/24 at 8:04 am to
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 8:04 am to
If these 9000s handle the 3D Vcache better than the 7900X3D, I'm getting one for my AM5 MB. However, the X870E MB sounds nice too.
This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 8:06 am
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:47 am to
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UltimateHog

Certainly possible, though it would mildly surprise me to see them that early, unless Intel is pushing to release earlier than previously reported. If AMD can drop x3D to compete with Intel’s release, I think they will. But rumors are that AMD is looking to tweak the x3D line a bit, so I’m curious to see if they will be finished cooking by September. I would certainly appreciate it, though
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:48 am to
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If these 9000s handle the 3D Vcache better than the 7900X3D, I'm getting one for my AM5 MB. However, the X870E MB sounds nice too.

It wouldn’t surprise me to see them add the vcache to both chips this time around, being the 7900x3D got trashed so badly. I just don’t see how they overcome the chip logic issue, being so much of it is out of their control.
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 8:48 am to
Doing a rebuild of my HTPC inside this case.

Was easier than I expected it to be. The riser cable I had on hand was too short, so I'm waiting for the new one to come in before it can be finished up. It is a smol boi
This post was edited on 6/17/24 at 8:50 am
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 8:53 am to
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Have any of yall had luck selling a used tower before? What should I ask for this? All it needs is a GPU

quote:
CPU: Intel Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Asus ROG Strix LC 240 80.95 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Case: MSI MPG GUNGNIR 100 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G3 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply



So instead of selling this, I ended up buying a used 3070Ti for $300, slapping it in, and giving the whole thing to my 12y/o cousin. He's been playing WZ with us on his PS5 and is a stud, so I figured he'd do even better with a hardware upgrade. Seeing his face as it fired up last night was a great feeling
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 9:03 am to
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So instead of selling this, I ended up buying a used 3070Ti for $300


Microcenter has these refurbed for $350 and I'm really tempted to get one to replace my titan Xp in my htpc
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:54 pm to
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Doing a rebuild of my HTPC inside this case. Was easier than I expected it to be. The riser cable I had on hand was too short, so I'm waiting for the new one to come in before it can be finished up. It is a smol boi

Those are nifty little cases.

I’m currently in the process of trying to talk myself out of picking up the new O11 Vision Compact when I go to build in 6 months or so. I keep telling myself that my O11 XL is still lovely, but I keep not listening to myself
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:59 pm to
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So instead of selling this, I ended up buying a used 3070Ti for $300, slapping it in, and giving the whole thing to my 12y/o cousin. He's been playing WZ with us on his PS5 and is a stud, so I figured he'd do even better with a hardware upgrade. Seeing his face as it fired up last night was a great feeling

Very nice
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 11:41 pm to
She's a cool little thing





fricking up the cheapo cooler install had me troubleshooting this thing far longer than I wanted to
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CPU: Intel Core i5-8600 3.1 GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Thermalright AXP90-X47 42.58 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ASRock H370M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: Crucial CT16G4DFD8266 16 GB (1 x 16 GB) DDR4-2666 CL19 Memory
Storage: Intel 660p 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card: NVIDIA 900-1G611-2500-000 Titan X (Pascal) 12 GB Video Card
Case: PCCOOLER Mini i100 PRO MESH Protable and Solid Mini Case 7.5L
Power Supply: iBuyPower 700w SFX Modular PSU SFXL-A700GD-IBP
This post was edited on 6/18/24 at 11:54 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 12:52 am to
The Alienware 27" 1440p 360Hz QD-OLED refurb is $599 on Dell outlet. $899 new.

10% off coupon: 841010AW2

$539.

LINK
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 12:57 am
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:35 am to
Holy moly that is cool. What did that run you total? Would love to have something like that
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:58 am to
The case was $60+$15 for a 300mm pcie riser.

The rest of the build... I couldn't tell you. I've had these parts in another ITX build for a while
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 3:44 pm to
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The rest of the build... I couldn't tell you. I've had these parts in another ITX build for a while

The fact that you’re rocking a nearly decade old GPU should be indicative
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 7:52 pm to
And it's still a beast
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:21 pm to
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And it's still a beast



Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54363 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:27 am to
Finally finished the beast. My last time touching this AM4 ITX build

Upgraded from a Sentry 2.0 case to a Dan A4 H20, 2070 Super to 4080 Super, and got a Fractal S24 V2 240 MM AIO and am using Noctua fans with it.

Went with a non-RGB all black/silver look. Didn't connect the RGB on the AIO CPU block. Looks pretty great.

Final parts list:

PCPartPicker Part List: LINK

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor (Purchased For $299.99)
CPU Cooler: Fractal Design Lumen S24 RGB V2 56 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (Purchased For $109.99)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (Purchased For $179.99)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL14 Memory ($189.99)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN750 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For $79.99)
Storage: SK Hynix Gold P31 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For $149.99)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card (Purchased For $999.99)
Case: Lian Li A4-H20 X4 Mini ITX Desktop Case (Purchased For $154.99)
Power Supply: Corsair SF750 (2018) 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply (Purchased For $169.99)
Total: $2334.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-27 10:20 EDT-0400


Did some mild undervolting on both the 5800x3d and the 4080 Super.

Got the 5800x3d with PBO2 Curve Optimizer enabled:

115W PPT (reduced from 142W Stock)
90A TDC (reduced from 95A Stock)
115A EDC (reduced from 140A Stock)

-20 on Cores 4 and 5
-25 on all other cores

It doesnt exceet 83 degrees C under stress testing, and hits between 4.35 and 4.4 on all cores.Pretty much better thermals with better than stock performance.

Also have the 2 fractal fans set at 1300 RPM, and the AIO Pump set at 3100 RPM. Its fairly quiet.

For the 4080 Super, I played with the voltage frequency curve, and I got it to routinely hit 2820 MHz during stress testing at 950 mV, while not exceeding 61 degrees C. I have not tried OC'ing the memory yet - my old 2070 Super was a great memory oc'er with the Samsung GDDR6, I'm curious how this Micron GDDR6X does.










This post was edited on 6/27/24 at 9:29 am
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 2:20 pm to
x3D same vcache as last gen

Mildly disappointing that we aren't getting a small boost in vcache, but it's not a big deal, especially if there's any OC wiggle left in the chip this gen with proper cooling. With that said, I'm more than a little surprised that AMD appears to be going back to the well on the 9900x3D with the single 3D vcache chip. That didn't sell worth a shite this gen, because it's kind of the worst of all worlds. I honestly don't understand what AMD is thinking with that. If they find themselves sitting on chips they need to cut down, just release a 9600x3D and watch people fall all over themselves to buy it.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 4:12 pm to
I thought it was pretty well known that the only changes were smaller ones under the hood. That's what all the articles have said since earlier this year at least.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 4:14 pm to
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I thought it was pretty well known that the only changes were smaller ones under the hood. That's what all the articles have said since earlier this year at least.

I would consider a small bump in the amount of vcache to be a small change, but like I said, only a very mild disappointment.

I was primarily posting that article because I was surprised they are going to release a 9900x3D. Genuinely, genuinely surprised.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 5:05 pm to
With how much they discount them they sell like crazy for just a small tradeoff in productivity. It's been cheaper than 7800X3D many times lately at $329.

quote:

Only fusing the SRAM onto one CCD also reduces manufacturing costs, as the hybrid bonding process and additional chiplet make this an expensive technology. AMD also says that using two V-Cache chiplets doesn’t provide enough performance uplift to justify the extra costs.
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