re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

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How much trouble is this? And at what cost? I stayed away from watercooling for so long because of all the contraptions guys had to use back in the day.

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It's probably a lot of trouble if you're new to it, and even when you're a veteran at it, doing certain things inside the case (like swapping video cards) is a long ordeal. The advantage of it is being able to water cool your video card(s), and VRMs and RAM and whatever else if you want to get ridiculous (No point in it). If you're getting the Fury X, it's already liquid cooled.

The cost can be reasonable for a budget CPU-only loop that will outperform the all-in-ones (it'll still cost more than an all-in-one). The cost can get tremendous very quickly when you water cool GPUs and/or go for certain aesthetics. The full-cover GPU blocks are expensive and non-transferrable (i.e., they're machined to fit one PCB design, and there's a 100% chance you won't be able to use it when you upgrade). Aside from overclocking performance, silence is one of my favorite benefits. I have a bunch of gentle typhoon fans on my fan controller, all of them at just under 1000rpm. At full load, you can still barely tell my PC is even running.

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I stayed away from watercooling for so long because of all the contraptions guys had to use back in the day.

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It's changed a lot over the years. A little over a decade ago, there were only a few small companies in the business, machining their own universal water blocks and selling some small kits. The best pumps were modified aquarium/small pond pumps running on AC power, and the best radiators were modified heater cores from old Chevelles and whatnot.

This was my frankensteinish water cooling build from 2003/2004. Maybe $200-250 worth of water cooling parts.



Now there's a comparatively huge market of watercooling gear, making desired aesthetics and performance much easier to achieve.

This is my current build:


That's about $900 in watercooling parts. The two GPU blocks with backplates are $150 each. Obviously, the benefits are a luxury and in no way justifiable financially.

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If I decide to stay under air (say a Noctua), what do you think is a max reasonable clock with a 6700K?

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I don't know. Depends on your luck. Overclocking performance is always a mystery until the CPU is released and the general population starts messing with them. (Never trust the hype-train record overclocks that get reported prior to retail release, even the ones that use reasonable cooling)

Ha! I see a floppy disk!

Those were the days.

So after getting the new mouse in, I'm kinda sad. I've realized I'm content with my build, and because I have no desire to jump to 1440 in the near future, I have no need to upgrade anything.

Le sigh...

Time for a complete overhaul.

Do you have it OC'd? If it's a 2500k you get get a good bit out of OC'ing it.

I know in the Amazon description it says you can overclock it to 4.0, and some user reviews have reported 4.2, but again I am not familiar in the least bit with overclocking and have never even thought about doing it. However, if it will improve performance, I would love to give it a shot.

MOBO: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+

My Cooler: CORSAIR Hydro Series H55 Quiet Edition Water / Liquid CPU Cooler. 120mm

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USAF Hart

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OK, I am going to preface this by saying I am not an expert but this is something I have been reading about.

I have been looking into doing this for shits and giggles, doubt I would ever get partnered but I would love to have this as a hobby even if it is expensive.
//Preface

What you are experiencing is normal for a 1 Computer Stream setup and it will occasionally lag from time to time. The only known way to get rid of it is to have a second PC that handles obs and the encoding.

However, if you are not a partner and do not have a high upload speed the second PC is really a negative EV proposition unless you want to spend the money on it.

This will happen with even Intel i74790k chips when running dayz and OBS at same time. I have seen it on Puhdado's stream from time to time. He is a big DayZ partnered streamer that brings in over 1000 viewers at a time.

Just note, only look to making upgrades if you want or seriously need it. Don't do it thinking it will bring in more viewers, that is the wrong way to go about it.

I have enjoyed chatting with you a couple times on twitch while you played CSGO though Hart.

I thought maybe I'd helped you bump it to 4.0 when we first did the build, but I don't remember.

What are your quality settings? You may just need to lower the resolution, bitrate, whatever. Smooth video is more important than image quality.