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re: Official League of Legends Thread
Posted on 6/10/14 at 4:38 am to dcrews
Posted on 6/10/14 at 4:38 am to dcrews
quote:
Aside from Warwick, what are you guys' top 5 easiest junglers to use/learn for a jungle newbie?
I'd probably put Vi, Jarvan, eve, and Nocturne up there for easy ganks. I'd put a champ like yi if you want an easy farming champ. Lee Sin is the most popular jungle in the game right now but he takes some work to get used to.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 4:39 am to Drewbie
quote:
Khazix.
I wouldn't recommend Khazix for a jungle newbie.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 4:52 am to KingwoodLsuFan
quote:But you would recommend Vi?
I wouldn't recommend Khazix for a jungle newbie.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 8:24 am to Drewbie
quote:
But you would recommend Vi?
Seems like Vi has a similar ult to Warwick's.
I thought Kha got nerfed recently?
ETA: I used to play a decent amount of Pantheon and Gangplank. Seems like either of those two would be fun to jungle with. Although I don't think they find themselves towards the top of the jungle list in the current meta.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 8:49 am
Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:27 pm to dcrews
Some of the meta champs without high skill caps will be the best to work with first. Since they are in powerful positions, it doesn't take a ton of time to be effective with them.
Elise and Eve aren't very hard to learn to use.
Elise does have the cocoon and Q as skillshots, but they're fairly easy to use.
Nocturne can fall off later in the game, but he's pretty strong at the moment.
Vi's damage is dependent on hitting vault breaker and getting the armor shred. If you miss that, you've lost a huge portion of your damage. But aside from that, she's pretty ok.
Feral Flare isn't as great as it once was... so Yi, Xin, Shyvana jungle isn't as strong, but viable if you are good with those champions.
Some off-meta ones that are fun in Normals are Jax & Rammus.
You just need to learn timing as a jungler. When wards are placed/expire... timing your buffs, their buffs, dragon, which side they started so you can contest the buff on the second/third spawn. Knowing which lanes you want to gank/ the enemy wants to gank. Be around for a counter gank. There's much more to jungling than just the champion.
Elise and Eve aren't very hard to learn to use.
Elise does have the cocoon and Q as skillshots, but they're fairly easy to use.
Nocturne can fall off later in the game, but he's pretty strong at the moment.
Vi's damage is dependent on hitting vault breaker and getting the armor shred. If you miss that, you've lost a huge portion of your damage. But aside from that, she's pretty ok.
Feral Flare isn't as great as it once was... so Yi, Xin, Shyvana jungle isn't as strong, but viable if you are good with those champions.
Some off-meta ones that are fun in Normals are Jax & Rammus.
You just need to learn timing as a jungler. When wards are placed/expire... timing your buffs, their buffs, dragon, which side they started so you can contest the buff on the second/third spawn. Knowing which lanes you want to gank/ the enemy wants to gank. Be around for a counter gank. There's much more to jungling than just the champion.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 4:04 pm to Drewbie
quote:
But you would recommend Vi?
Vi isn't hard to use at all. She is tankier and has a great engage for ganks and teamfights. Khazix on the other hand has great damage but is very reliant on positioning and timing. It takes practice to get used to using his ult correctly and learning how to maximize your damage on resets.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 4:17 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
quote:You do have to hit the vault breaker. The ult isn't enough. She was OP for a while, but they brought her to a place of balance.... so the Q is more important than ever. Especially hitting multiple people in a team fight.
Vi isn't hard to use at all.
quote:Yes. This makes her playable in all levels of competition. Even LCS. You just have to understand that her role is now CC/Tank/Peel/Lock up other ADC. If you can play that style.... she's a great jungler. I'm a huge fan of mobility in the jungle, and she qualifies.
She is tankier and has a great engage for ganks and teamfights.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 5:08 pm to dcrews
quote:He did, but I haven't had any issues. Went 16/2/8 the last time I played with him.
I thought Kha got nerfed recently?
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:22 pm to dcrews
I have to admit, I thought the Kha nerfs were going to do more than they did. He's definitely squishy now, but he can definitely still blow people the frick up.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 5:05 pm to Drewbie
Posted on 6/14/14 at 3:28 pm to Drewbie
TSM + Korean coach = ggggggggggggggg
Posted on 6/14/14 at 4:46 pm to Drewbie
quote:
TSM + Korean coach = ggggggggggggggg
They definitely looked organized and synergized very well that game.
This win is huge for TSM. They must take this little bit of synergy momentum and run with it for the rest of the split.
Conversely, C9 looks lost and their chemistry seems off, especially for one of the few teams that didn't really make any personnel changes in the off season.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 4:51 pm to dcrews
quote:Hai was also hospitalized and unable to practice for a really long time. Granted, you'd think they'd have it patched up by now, but it's worth noting. I honestly think it's more the fact that NA is really really competitive now.
Conversely, C9 looks lost and their chemistry seems off, especially for one of the few teams that didn't really make any personnel changes in the off season.
This post was edited on 6/14/14 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 6/14/14 at 5:28 pm to Drewbie
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Hai was also hospitalized and unable to practice for a really long time. Granted, you'd think they'd have it patched up by now, but it's worth noting. I honestly think it's more the fact that NA is really really competitive now.
I took that into consideration for the start of the split, but at this point, I would imagine it shouldn't be so much a factor that they are sub .500.
NA has gotten MUCH better and I agree with you that in and of itself is the main reason C9 (and TSM to an extent) fell behind early in the split.
C9 will pull it together at some point I'm sure, but they certainly aren't the dominant force they were last year.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 5:33 pm to dcrews
The jungle nerf hurt C9 a lot. Meteos won't be nearly the factor he has been considering he'll be fighting to keep up with bot lane in levels rather than staying even with the solo laners. TSM has had synergy issues all split, but those seem to be going away, at least for one game. I think Locodoco will be a huge factor going forward.
Take last game for example. Meteos was 40 farm ahead of Amazing 11 minutes into the game, but they were both the same level. Meteos is going to have to adjust to being more gank heavy rather than farming the jungle over and over. Amazing seemed to have adjusted well, especially considering the first item he completed was a sightstone.
ETA: Also, just to point out, C9 isn't even sub .500. They're 5-4.
Take last game for example. Meteos was 40 farm ahead of Amazing 11 minutes into the game, but they were both the same level. Meteos is going to have to adjust to being more gank heavy rather than farming the jungle over and over. Amazing seemed to have adjusted well, especially considering the first item he completed was a sightstone.
ETA: Also, just to point out, C9 isn't even sub .500. They're 5-4.
This post was edited on 6/14/14 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:13 pm to Drewbie
Uh, I didn't watch it yet, but I saw Curse beat LMQ.
What the frick
What the frick
Posted on 6/16/14 at 3:20 am to Mear
quote:and C9 beat Dig after getting wrecked by EG and TSM. Looks like there's finally some parody in NA.
Uh, I didn't watch it yet, but I saw Curse beat LMQ.
What the frick
This post was edited on 6/16/14 at 3:21 am
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