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Is Final Fantasy VII leftist ecofascist propaganda?
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:57 pm
VII is all about stopping the use of effective energy to “save the planet”. Isn’t that what the left wants to do with oil/NG?
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 7:44 am
Posted on 1/8/21 at 12:54 am to ForeverEllisHugh
Please seek mental help.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 1:18 am to ForeverEllisHugh
Look hard enough and you’ll find something to be offended by in anything.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 1:23 am to skrayper
I mean VIII has some teacher/student sexual tension but joke’s on you I’m into that shite
Posted on 1/8/21 at 6:45 am to ForeverEllisHugh
Meh. I look at it more as stopping a giant corporation thats so powerful it acts as a dictatorship. The original came out in 1997 when it happened that all the biggest corporations in the world were all energy companies. And the Japanese aren’t all crazy with the left wing political stuff. I don’t think the game has some major underlying political message
Posted on 1/8/21 at 7:03 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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Is Final Fantasy VII leftist ecofascist propaganda?
Posted on 1/8/21 at 7:40 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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VIX, and VXII
Which numbers are these?
Posted on 1/8/21 at 7:45 am to Sasquatch Smash
Supposed to be 9 and 12 clearly didn’t end up that way
Posted on 1/8/21 at 7:45 am to ForeverEllisHugh
The gaming board sometimes feel like the poli board...
Posted on 1/8/21 at 8:21 am to ShootingsBricks4Life
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The gaming board sometimes feel like the poli board...
A lot of them are starting to feel that way, because people have to insert their politics into everything or insist on discussing them no matter what, everywhere.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 8:28 am to ForeverEllisHugh
I like games like FF7 that allow you to play as characters who exist in a philosophical grey area.
Avalanche are just red pill takers, but when you execute a revolution you inflict collateral damage on everything around you. Avalanche know what's really going on within Shinra and their plans for world dominance and are willing to resort to radical action to do what they think is right. The sheeple of Midgar and the rest of the world are mostly oblivious thanks to well-executed propaganda machine.
I suppose the existential question is whether or not the ordinary people in this world yearn for the façade of safety and the authoritarian rulership that Shinra provides... some people don't want to live free
Avalanche are just red pill takers, but when you execute a revolution you inflict collateral damage on everything around you. Avalanche know what's really going on within Shinra and their plans for world dominance and are willing to resort to radical action to do what they think is right. The sheeple of Midgar and the rest of the world are mostly oblivious thanks to well-executed propaganda machine.
I suppose the existential question is whether or not the ordinary people in this world yearn for the façade of safety and the authoritarian rulership that Shinra provides... some people don't want to live free
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:07 am to ForeverEllisHugh
You've got Tifa standing in front of you, and you are worried about politics?
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:41 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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VII is all about stopping the use of effective energy to “save the planet”. Isn’t that what the left wants to do with oil/NG?
I've never played the game, but just having read the plot, the issue was that the "effective energy" was, literally, draining the planet of life. Unless you want to make the concession that current energy production is analogous to that, you're probably being a little too sensitive
Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:59 am to Joshjrn
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the issue was that the "effective energy" was, literally, draining the planet of life. Unless you want to make the concession that current energy production is analogous to that, you're probably being a little too sensitive
this mofo playin chess
Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:34 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
It's more about stopping a corporation that's using it's power to destroy the planet.
So Google. Yeah, Google.
So Google. Yeah, Google.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 11:46 pm to Joshjrn
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I've never played the game, but just having read the plot, the issue was that the "effective energy" was, literally, draining the planet of life. Unless you want to make the concession that current energy production is analogous to that, you're probably being a little too sensitive
I think you just made the OP's argument.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 2:39 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
The game came out in 1997, so if it is propaganda, I'd say it hasn't worked.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 4:44 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
In the actual original game, Sephiroth apparently walks up all 59 floors and slaughters everyone in Shinra’s building sans the last few important people.
The game is more so about stopping an alien “invasion” than saving the planet from ecoterrorism. Shinra was only able to do what they were able to do with mako because of Jenova.
The game is more so about stopping an alien “invasion” than saving the planet from ecoterrorism. Shinra was only able to do what they were able to do with mako because of Jenova.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 7:56 am to ForeverEllisHugh
I mean...yeah. It’s a very clear allegory decrying rampant corporatism destroying the earth to produce energy. The intention of pumping out dwindling mako to make energy that fuels the all-powerful and militaristic shinra’s industrial empire is an obvious dig at the oil industry. Shinra was a corporation so powerful, that they ruled the world with absolute power, leaving municipal government officials as glorified librarians with no real power.
Peak oil was a big mainstream issue back in the 90’s. Comentators were warning that the planet would run out of oil resulting in widespread economic and societal collapse by 2010 if we didn’t do something. Meanwhile, the pollution from the fossil fuels industry was said to be killing the earth, destroying the ozone layer, causing acid rain, poisoning crops and water supplies, etc. Midgar was meant to be the ultimate exaggeration of how disposable materialistic culture dependent on exploitation of the planet could have negative long term consequences.
So, yeah, FFVII is absolutely propoganda promoting an anti-fossil fuels and anti corporatist agenda. Still a great game.
I would be shocked if the game didn’t influence a lot of older millennials and younger gen-xers to study environmentalism in college and try to become more involved.
Peak oil was a big mainstream issue back in the 90’s. Comentators were warning that the planet would run out of oil resulting in widespread economic and societal collapse by 2010 if we didn’t do something. Meanwhile, the pollution from the fossil fuels industry was said to be killing the earth, destroying the ozone layer, causing acid rain, poisoning crops and water supplies, etc. Midgar was meant to be the ultimate exaggeration of how disposable materialistic culture dependent on exploitation of the planet could have negative long term consequences.
So, yeah, FFVII is absolutely propoganda promoting an anti-fossil fuels and anti corporatist agenda. Still a great game.
I would be shocked if the game didn’t influence a lot of older millennials and younger gen-xers to study environmentalism in college and try to become more involved.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 8:02 am
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:31 am to Billy Mays
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like games like FF7 that allow you to play as characters who exist in a philosophical grey area.
Yeah, opening the game by having you blow up a reactor, kill innocent people and destroy property in such a theatrical manner was a pretty revolutionary thing at the time. It was an experience unlike any other at the time. That feeling you have when you realize "uh...we are the terrorists".
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 10:33 am
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