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re: Got my NES RGB modded and it is incredible

Posted on 10/2/19 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 10/2/19 at 12:21 pm to
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Who did you get to mod the NES? If you don't mind me asking. I haven't had anything modded other than my saturn, to play burned discs. I play most of my systems natively through SCART to the PVM...it all works out pretty nicely. And on top of that, I can't recommend Everdrives enough...they will change your life

I knew the Dude's Rug would be up in here, once I started reading the first post.


It was the same guy I bought my RGB SNES Mini from. He's on ebay. He seems to take pride in his work and so far does a really great job. He posts pics of his mod work unlike most.

He was sending me pics of him doing the work. He would send me stuff like asking where I'd like the switch, etc. Very hands on and communicative.

He RGB modded it, cleaned the system inside and out, recapped it and replaced the voltage regulator.
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
7524 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 12:25 pm to
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Yeah. You can get it to shift by messing with the A/D level setting. But one setting doesn't work for all content so you might have to keep messing with it. At this point I just ignore it and don't really notice


Same here. It's not really a big deal to me. I just ignore it when I see it.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18651 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 12:39 pm to
If you get your NES RGB modded try to get one with the NESRGB-IGR installed too. It lets your reset your game (START+SELECT+A+B), hard restart console to return to everdrive menu (hold START+SELECT+A+B), or change RGB color palettes (START+SELECT+LEFT or +RIGHT) from the player 1 controller.

I installed one in my NES with that setup, with the NES's LED changing color with the palette (red for normal palette, orange for PlayChoice 10 palette, green for Improved palette)

It's awesome for when using the EverDrive. I can browse and play multiple games without getting off the couch to mess with the power/reset
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
7524 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 12:52 pm to
I actually saw that on Voultar's website. That's a pretty neat thing. I almost went with him to mod my system, but decided on the guy I got my SNES from.

Also, I'd like to recommend the Blinking Light Win pin connector if you mod your front loading NES. I posted a thread on here months ago about how it revived my NES and my NES now reads my games like 95% of the time. It also has a chip on the PCB board to disable region locking. https://www.arcadeworks.net/blw

Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 10/2/19 at 1:10 pm to


I'm still looking to pay someone to burn me some Saturn and Sega CD games...from my back-ups of course....lol
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
7524 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 1:17 pm to
Speaking of Sega, I'm waiting for these bad boys to come out for my Dreamcast (hopefully it's still this year): https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/sega/SEGA-DREAMCAST-RGB-SCART-CABLES/Sega-Dreamcast-Component-YPbPr-cable-480p





Can not wait! Man, I miss the Dreamcast
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18651 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 1:56 pm to
I'm actually very heavily involved with the Dreamcast development community and designed a schematic for a DC->Framemeister RGB-in cable with 480p/240p toggle and sync combiner many years ago before anyone was marketing new video cables and boxes for DC. So I'm very familiar with how these cables operate...

I don't understand -- what is the appeal of converting to YPbPr and then back again? You are not the only person I've seen hyped for this and I don't see what the appeal is.

I have the DCHDMI and I'd much prefer to stick with that.

All Dreamcast VGA or component cables still display with the incorrect aspect ratio on modern displays because the Dreamcast's pixel clock does not match with the frame timing. So you basically end up with 640x480 in an odd 720x480 box. Of course you could tweak the OSSC to fix this if you have one. But if you have an OSSC why wouldn't you use the 480p SCART cables from Retro Access (who are U.S.-based, have better quality than RetroGamingCables in my experience, and use a better circuit designed by Dan Kunz, the same guy who designed DCHDMI)?

I know DCHDMI is expensive, but it looks worlds better than using Dreamcast VGA converter cables. Trust me. Worlds better.



Right now I have a Dreamcast I dyed black, with GDEMU drive replacement, 3D printed tray to make it look fairly stock, SD card with every U.S. game, every PAL exclusive, and a few dozen Japanese games some with translation patches, Noctua silent fan mod, and DCHDMI mod. I patched all game images for VGA compatibility so there's now only like 6 titles total incompatible with VGA mode (so on DCHDMI it has to drop down to 480i).

I also have 2 broadband adapters and a Netopia modem dialup setup so my fiancee and I can play Phantasy Star Online on DC together.
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
7524 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 3:31 pm to
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I'm actually very heavily involved with the Dreamcast development community and designed a schematic for a DC->Framemeister RGB-in cable with 480p/240p toggle and sync combiner many years ago before anyone was marketing new video cables and boxes for DC. So I'm very familiar with how these cables operate...

I don't understand -- what is the appeal of converting to YPbPr and then back again? You are not the only person I've seen hyped for this and I don't see what the appeal is.

I have the DCHDMI and I'd much prefer to stick with that.

All Dreamcast VGA or component cables still display with the incorrect aspect ratio on modern displays because the Dreamcast's pixel clock does not match with the frame timing. So you basically end up with 640x480 in an odd 720x480 box. Of course you could tweak the OSSC to fix this if you have one. But if you have an OSSC why wouldn't you use the 480p SCART cables from Retro Access (who are U.S.-based, have better quality than RetroGamingCables in my experience, and use a better circuit designed by Dan Kunz, the same guy who designed DCHDMI)?

I know DCHDMI is expensive, but it looks worlds better than using Dreamcast VGA converter cables. Trust me. Worlds better.


Honestly, for convenience. I currently use the Behar Bros Toro Box via Scart and it gets the job done, but I just don't like how bulky it is. I have to bend the cable some to fit in the small area I have my Dreamcast in and you're not supposed to do that since it could damage the cable.

It's also one less Scart cable to have to hook up. I don't have a switch (well, I do but it degrades picture quality so I don't use it) and the quality ones seem to be really expensive like the gscartsw.

I don't have anything hooked up to my OSSC's component port right now so it'll be perfect for me. HD Retrovision is also releasing a component cable which I'm still unsure If I'll go with them or Retro Gaming Cables.

And yep, you can fix the Dreamcast's aspect ratio on the OSSC. I got it set correctly. I'm not sure if these cables fix it or not, but if not, I can just do what I've been doing through the OSSC.

I used to get my cables from RA, but I had a really bad experience where they ghosted me on a cable (I was having problems with it where it would show no picture with sound or a green hue over the picture) I had bought from them that I had sent in on their orders.

They sent me an email maybe a couple of weeks later telling me they couldn't find any issues with the cable and if I wanted it back or a refund. I reply to the email and received no response. This went on for almost 3 months where they wouldn't answer me back with if we could do an exchange or I'll just take a refund.

I did finally get things resolved (had to set up a social media account and pm them on there my disgust at the whole thing), but it was such horrible customer service. I sent about 3-4 emails total over an almost 3 month period and no response. So they had my cable for nearly 3 months. Luckily, I had a backup cable that worked fine.

Needless to say, I quit buying from them and now use Retro Gaming Cables and the only direct experience I've had with them (a question via their email) has been great. They responded within maybe 2-3 hours of sending them an email.

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Right now I have a Dreamcast I dyed black, with GDEMU drive replacement, 3D printed tray to make it look fairly stock, SD card with every U.S. game, every PAL exclusive, and a few dozen Japanese games some with translation patches, Noctua silent fan mod, and DCHDMI mod. I patched all game images for VGA compatibility so there's now only like 6 titles total incompatible with VGA mode (so on DCHDMI it has to drop down to 480i).

I also have 2 broadband adapters and a Netopia modem dialup setup so my fiancee and I can play Phantasy Star Online on DC together.


Damn, that's a loaded DC . I've thought about getting the DCHDMI, but if I do I don't think I want to do it to my original Dreamcast. Will have to buy a spare. Right now though, I'm pretty satisfied with the scart (other than what I said about the Toro) and probably (the future) component cable hooked up to the OSSC and line doubled to 960p.
Posted by gjackx
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/2/19 at 3:48 pm to
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I'm still looking to pay someone to burn me some Saturn and Sega CD games...from my back-ups of course....lol

What games you looking for? And, of course only from personal backups...that's the only way, haha!


Feel free to email me and I can let you know what I currently have:
<---@yahoo.com
Posted by gjackx
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2007
16527 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 3:51 pm to
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efrad

You seem very overqualified for this next question, but I'll ask it anyway.....I've got a Dreamcast that won't turn on, do you have the ability to fix that by chance?

And while you're at it, can it be converted to the GDEMU etc. setup that you currently have? It can stay the stock color though, I'm cool with that
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 4:15 pm to
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True, I did forget about it, but that's really because it does me no good being composite/s-video/component only. I've banished anything less than RGB in this house. Everything is either RGB or HDMI now

Yeah I understand, RGB is great (especially on a PVM). I think the main draw of using an RT is in tandem with an OSSC (which only does component/RGB).
You'd be surprised at the huge difference between composite and just s video.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 4:18 pm to
Do y'all have a PSIO for PSX?
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18651 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 4:53 pm to
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Honestly, for convenience. I currently use the Behar Bros Toro Box via Scart and it gets the job done, but I just don't like how bulky it is. I have to bend the cable some to fit in the small area I have my Dreamcast in and you're not supposed to do that since it could damage the cable.


Yeah, the BeharBros stuff is pretty good but they have had problems with really fragile cables in the past. They actually gave me a Toro for free because of the schematic I mentioned earlier was floating around the internet -- not that they used my schematic, but he just wanted someone to test it who was familiar with that kind of setup. I used it once and put it in a drawer, and like 2 years later I ended up hooking it up for something and the colors were all fricked up from the fragile cable even though it sat in the drawer all that time Supposedly, though, I have heard they have fixed this and will send you a replacement new style cable.

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It's also one less Scart cable to have to hook up. I don't have a switch (well, I do but it degrades picture quality so I don't use it) and the quality ones seem to be really expensive like the gscartsw.


Well, I do hate those SCART connectors. It's a crappy standard.

I am really thinking about getting a gscartw myself though. I have my 20" Ikegami CRT on a rolling cart and I would like to stick all my retro consoles on the cart plugged into a power strip and gscartw. That way I can have a beanbag chair or something in my spare bedroom where I can go and chill and play retro games, or I can roll the cart into the living room and connect the daisy-chain output to the Framemeister and play anything on the big screen.

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I used to get my cables from RA, but I had a really bad experience where they ghosted me on a cable (I was having problems with it where it would show no picture with sound or a green hue over the picture) I had bought from them that I had sent in on their orders. They sent me an email maybe a couple of weeks later telling me they couldn't find any issues with the cable and if I wanted it back or a refund. I reply to the email and received no response. This went on for almost 3 months where they wouldn't answer me back with if we could do an exchange or I'll just take a refund. I did finally get things resolved (had to set up a social media account and pm them on there my disgust at the whole thing), but it was such horrible customer service. I sent about 3-4 emails total over an almost 3 month period and no response. So they had my cable for nearly 3 months. Luckily, I had a backup cable that worked fine. Needless to say, I quit buying from them and now use Retro Gaming Cables and the only direct experience I've had with them (a question via their email) has been great. They responded within maybe 2-3 hours of sending them an email.


Well, I guess I can't blame you for steering clear of Retro Access after dealing with that. I'm not too surprised though as I've heard people say she takes a long time before she gets back to emails.

My issue with Retro Gaming Cables UK was I ordered a couple SCART cables and one didn't work. When I opened it up, some of the wires came loose and were obviously very poorly soldered. I didn't bother contacting customer service though, and just fixed it myself with my soldering iron (shipping a cable overseas is not something I felt like bothering with). However, this was in like 2012 or 2013 and so many people order from them without a problem, so I would assume they've cleaned up their act.

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Damn, that's a loaded DC



I spare no expense with Dreamcast. I really need to get some kind of shelving/display case for my Dreamcast stuff, because I have lots of rare and awesome Dreamcast stuff that warrants display. Stuff like boxed obscure Japanese peripherals, development/prototype game discs, etc.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18651 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

You seem very overqualified for this next question, but I'll ask it anyway.....I've got a Dreamcast that won't turn on, do you have the ability to fix that by chance?

And while you're at it, can it be converted to the GDEMU etc. setup that you currently have? It can stay the stock color though, I'm cool with that



I don't really do commissioned work anymore. I used to do mod work on occasion, and never has anyone ever complained about the result of my work or not given me anything but raving, positive feedback, but I've seen good clean legitimate mod work take a lot of scrutiny online from the big name modders who do much cleaner work than I could ever hope to do. I don't find the going rate is worth my time and effort and all that potential scrutiny.

However, aside from the DCHDMI modification, all of the mods I mentioned are really easy to do. The GDEMU doesn't need any soldering and requires you only to take the lid off your Dreamcast -- it's extremely easy, impossible to mess up.


As for your Dreamcast --

Does it turn on at all? No lights, no fan spinning?
If no lights or fan, try opening the lid and turning it on with the lid open. Sometimes the GD-ROM motor shorts out and causes power issues when trying to spin, opening the lid will stop it from spinning and it might power on.

If that doesn't help, and it's still no lights or fan, then it's probably a power supply issue. In which case you just need to swap out the power supply, which is very easy.
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 5:02 pm
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18651 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 5:12 pm to
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Do y'all have a PSIO for PSX?


No, but I've been thinking about it. My PSX right now has a Mayumi stealth modchip for CD-R games and I also modded it with S/PDIF digital audio output.

But with PSXHDMI coming in a few months, I might HDMI mod my PSX and throw PSIO in there at the same time.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 8:19 pm to
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Do y'all have a PSIO for PSX?

No, they are always on fricking backorder.

I would like to just go with the CD-R backups route with the Ps1 too, but like I posted before, I'm too lazy. I'd still like to just buy someone a stack of CD-Rs and pay them to burn them for me. Lol
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 8:22 pm to
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GDEMU

How is the compatibility with this? I assume it's super easy and convenient to setup.

Do you have any experience with the Saturn's Phoebe/Rhea unit? Are they developed by the same person as the GDEMU?
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 10:37 pm to
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No, they are always on fricking backorder.

Stone Age Gamer almost always has them in stock. Cheaper and based in the US too.

https://stoneagegamer.com/flash/playstation/carts/

I sent them my SCPH 7501 PSX (the last US model with the "Gameshark" port on the back) too and they did a great job with the mod.
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 10:39 pm
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18651 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

How is the compatibility with this? I assume it's super easy and convenient to setup.

Do you have any experience with the Saturn's Phoebe/Rhea unit? Are they developed by the same person as the GDEMU?


Compatibility is 100% perfect, with one exception. The rips of official bleemcast Gran Turismo 2, bleemcast Metal Gear Solid, and bleemcast Tekken 3 discs don't work, because of their ridiculous copy protection. The GDEMU does not mount the hacked disc images correctly. There is someone out there currently working on stripping out that protection to make it compatible with GDEMU though.

Everything else works including PSX games run on the bleemcast leaked beta version.

As for setup, you need to use a Windows-based app to properly transfer your game images to SD card. This is a little tedious but if you drop like $60 on a 400GB card on Amazon you can transfer everything at once and never have to touch it again.

The problem with the GDEMU is that the guy who makes it is a Polish guy who insists on personally making them by hand and will not partner with anyone for a mass manufacturing run. So he randomly opens up orders on his website, and it sells out within minutes. So what ended up happening is Chinese vendors cloned the thing and they sell it for half the price on eBay and AliExpress. Even though I have a genuine GDEMU I honestly suggest getting one of the clones because it's so hard to get a genuine one. The only difference is the clone version cannot update its firmware, but a firmware update hasn't been issued in years and shouldn't ever be necessary.

As for Saturn's Phoebe/Rhea, yeah, it's the same guy as GDEMU. And like GDEMU, it's really hard to get one. Unlike GDEMU, the Chinese haven't cloned it yet, so they're really scarce. However, GDEMU has the ability for software to talk to the hardware to change disc images; this has allowed homebrew menu loaders to be made so you can pick your game on the screen with a controller. For the Saturn Rhea/Phoebe, you have to pick from the physical button on the Saturn. Meaning that you can only put a few games on a card because you have to press the button on the Saturn X number of times to correspond to which game you want to play.

For that reason, I haven't bothered to get it. My Saturn has a modchip and region free BIOS so I can play any region game on any media. However, there is another optical drive emulator coming for Saturn called the Satiator. I would recommend waiting things out for that one over getting a Rhea/Phoebe.
Posted by willymeaux
Member since Mar 2012
4755 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 11:52 pm to
I used to have a Dreamcast sd card reader that I could plug in the serial port of the dc but it went missing when I moved. It really sucks because Nintendo took down the site that had all the games formatted for as cards. Anyone know where I can find another source?
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