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re: Favorite Chess openings?

Posted on 11/10/20 at 4:15 pm to
Posted by PEEPO
Member since Sep 2020
1820 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 4:15 pm to
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One big question I have..I see analysis of games scoring me for not using a knight or bishop to attack a center pawn at times and it confuses the shite out of me as to why I should lose 3 points to 1 and how to spot when that is actually worth doing?! It's crazy.


I doubt the engine is advising you trade a bishop or knight for a pawn straight up.

There's probably a tactic involved where you can actually take the pawn and still not lose the piece, so the engine sees that thus it advises the pawn capture.

You can look at the entire line the engine is seeing as to why it suggests sch a move and see if you can spot it.

But analyzing your play vs. some 3000 rated engine is also not going to be productive for beginners either IMO. The moves it suggests are based on not only you playing perfect, but your opponent playing perfect in response as well. It's almost more theoretical than reality.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 2:46 pm to
That makes sense. Cause I've had some moves that I saw as brilliant that worked and the machine thinks I'm retarded when I do them

I'm learning I'm not good being to aggressive either. I seem to do better being more defensive and waiting to let them make the mistake to go up +3 then go aggressive with trades to simplify. Seems like if I attack early with white I get fricked up. Somehow I win more with black than white right now..which is driving me insane because it should be the opposite.
Posted by PEEPO
Member since Sep 2020
1820 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 5:00 pm to
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Seems like if I attack early with white I get fricked up.


I can likely tell you exactly why, I've witnessed enough beginner chess to know all the pitfalls. You're likely trying to begin an attack without completing development first.

It's totally a trap beginners fall into. They'll bring out a knight and a bishop, their opponent who isn't that good will present them something to threaten, and they will. Then they proceed to move the same bishop around like 4 moves in a row or something.

Unless your opponent just blatantly hangs material, the opening should consist of you getting your army mobilized. Moving the same piece multiple times in the opening is rare. There are obviously lines where it happens, but it's just a rule of thumb.

All your minor pieces (bishops and knights) should be off their initial squares and positioned somewhere better. You should be castled and your queen should be on a square that's safe from attack but ready to dive into the thick of things if necessary. Those conditions above usually mean your rooks are connected as well (they protect each other on the back rank).

Once your army is fully mobilized, any attack you make is going to be far more effective.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 6:14 pm to
Makes a lot of sense. Appreciate the detailed help man.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35047 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 7:25 pm to
Queens gambit bc that’s what the hot red head pill popper chick did.
Posted by theducks
Where The Blazers Play
Member since Aug 2013
13712 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 4:36 pm to
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Queens gambit bc that’s what the hot red head pill popper chick did


QFT
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22781 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 8:11 pm to
Old thread but I can't resist. There aren't a lot of Chess threads.

London is my favor winning but it isn't the most exciting.

Vampire gambit if playing average players. It always leads to chaotic positions that look like the pieces were just thrown at the board. This opening I think should be called the Blunder opening.

When it is accepted I like the Vienna.

I am learning the Danish right now and think it has great potential and doesn't seem to hard to learn and deal with when the opponent doesn't do what you want early on.
Posted by audodger
Member since Jun 2010
7077 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:52 pm to
I favor the Italian and sometimes mix it up with the Ruy Lopez. As black, I was frequently getting the opportunity to play the Traxler Counter Attack whenever my opponent went for the Fried Liver Attack, although, recently it seems I've stopped playing opponents that bite as my rating has climbed a bit. I highly recommend it if you're looking to end games quickly. Mostly, though, I just try to stick to basic principles, not hang pieces, and occasionally find a nice winning tactic.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Simcoe Strip - He/Him/Helicopter
Member since Oct 2011
36378 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:55 pm to
Bongcloud
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22781 posts
Posted on 1/29/21 at 12:37 am to
I know of the traxler but it is a bit complex. There is another trap I play that almost always ends in checkmate. I don't even know the name of it anymore.

To improve. Solve a few riddles every day and analyze all of your games via the game report if you are using Chess.com.

It will show you the best move and rate your moves... good, excellent, mistake, blunder etc.

In addition to that watch some youtube videos and that are all over the internet or buy a book or two.

Do that and a beginners elo will move up quick.

I would steer clear of bullet games and instead play longer games, especially when just learning.
Posted by audodger
Member since Jun 2010
7077 posts
Posted on 1/29/21 at 10:21 am to
quote:

To improve. Solve a few riddles every day and analyze all of your games via the game report if you are using Chess.com.

It will show you the best move and rate your moves... good, excellent, mistake, blunder etc.

In addition to that watch some youtube videos and that are all over the internet or buy a book or two.

Do that and a beginners elo will move up quick.

I would steer clear of bullet games and instead play longer games, especially when just learning.


All of this is exactly what I'm doing. I grew up playing a good bit and just started back a few months ago. It's so much easier to learn now with all the tools and resources available. I'm audodger on chess.com if anyone wants to play.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30898 posts
Posted on 1/29/21 at 1:13 pm to
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Favorite Chess openings?


Buying Park Place, followed by all the Railroads.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16635 posts
Posted on 1/29/21 at 10:21 pm to
English, London, or Italian for white. Accelerated dragon or Dutch for black. I’ve been trying to use the hyper modern for black with mixed results. I find it works better in bullet games when people are making moves thinking about time rather than what I’m playing.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16635 posts
Posted on 1/29/21 at 10:22 pm to
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All of this is exactly what I'm doing. I grew up playing a good bit and just started back a few months ago. It's so much easier to learn now with all the tools and resources available. I'm audodger on chess.com if anyone wants to play.


Jpizzle5178 here. I fluctuate between 900-1200 mostly since I seem to play the most when I’ve been drinking
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
7636 posts
Posted on 2/1/21 at 4:39 pm to
Let them be white and copy their moves vs the computer in another window.

EZ.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14836 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 11:10 pm to
Good god this thread makes me feel stupid. Is it possible to just not have that part of the brain that lets one “see” a chessboard and come up with effective tactics?

Just to illustrate my nerdiness I’m reasonably intelligent (32ACT w/perfect English/Reading, 1410SAT w/perfect language, national merit finalist, gifted and all that crap) but I genuinely can’t beat the Windows CPU on beginner.
Posted by Boss13
Mobile
Member since Oct 2016
1160 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:26 am to
As White: e4 with the intent of getting into the italian game or the kings Indian. I am trying to get better against the sicilian butits very complex and rich with tactics. I understand the ideas of the first two best so they are my go to.

As Black: I play the caro kann exclusively against e4 because I understand the ideas and there aren't that many opening traps to get caught up in. Against d4 I almost always reply with d5 as I am comfortable in queens gambit and slav structures.

Dont study move orders, study the ideas behind the set ups. This will help you plan and understand what is going on over the board.

DogfacePonySoldier on chess.com and lichess.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15325 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 7:41 pm to
Watching people like Andrew Tang play hyper-bullet (30 seconds) with near precision in complicated positions is always very impressive. And then you see them play it with a blind board and your jaw drops.
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