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Posted on 7/15/24 at 7:21 pm to Paul Allen
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As long as Fleming’s, Drusilla Seafood and J. Alexander’s are going strong, I will be just fine.
This is sarcasm, right? Please tell me this is sarcasm
Posted on 7/15/24 at 7:35 pm to SixthAndBarone
quote:When he had the small space at White Star it was very good. The restaurant wasn’t bad, but once he sold the restaurant to Guaranty Media (in 2019) it went way down.
taco shop from Jay who hasn’t had a restaurant before not lasting isn’t shocking.
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:24 pm to BugAC
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towards the end of the business, they were a sinking ship.
Of course they were. It was a generations-old business with no ambition to continue into another new generation. They had a great run and were a part of the BR culture for a long time. Their time came to an end. But people hate on them because they didn’t change the way they were 50 years ago and they didn’t want non customers parking on their property while they supported another business across the street.
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:27 pm to BigBinBR
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When he had the small space at White Star it was very good.
I’m sure he could make a great taco but that doesn’t always allow you to build a restaurant around a few tacos. My point was, it’s not shocking a first time restaurant owner didn’t last very long with a restaurant based around tacos.
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:29 pm to SixthAndBarone
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But people hate on them because they didn’t change the way they were 50 years ago and they didn’t want non customers parking on their property while they supported another business across the street.
Also because they were aggressively rude and served utterly mediocre pizza
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:43 pm to SixthAndBarone
I hate on them because I'm a bit biased. My childhood best friend got a job there, and an older man who became a regular continued to go in hitting on her.
Not a big deal until he followed her to her car when the place had been closed for a while one night and she was alone. She alerted the owner. Was told no they are not doing anything about it and he is welcome to still come in.
They also kicked people out or cut them off for cursing. They were weird about allowing you to order more than 2 beers in a sitting. They were cash only. They had mildew soaked towels lining the weird frosted glass wall. They yelled at customers.
Not a big deal until he followed her to her car when the place had been closed for a while one night and she was alone. She alerted the owner. Was told no they are not doing anything about it and he is welcome to still come in.
They also kicked people out or cut them off for cursing. They were weird about allowing you to order more than 2 beers in a sitting. They were cash only. They had mildew soaked towels lining the weird frosted glass wall. They yelled at customers.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 8:06 am
Posted on 7/15/24 at 10:09 pm to SixthAndBarone
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SixthAndBarone
How is it that you so often end up being the turd in the punch bowl in so many threads?
Posted on 7/15/24 at 11:09 pm to LouisianaLady
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Fleur de Lis Pizza
Trash trash trash trash trash. The food and the owners and the employees. I've never been talked down by any service worker other than the staff at FDL. Ex's father loved the place so we went. "Baton Rouge staple" yes for people who are afraid to eat a different pizza in 40 years. We got yelled at for having a conversation at the table. frick em. It was a family dinner. Cash only? frick that. Take my Visa so I don't have to carry cash. Pay your taxes
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Gov’t Taco
Wasn't bad, but terrible idea to open up next door to Superior. Guaranty has a habit of buying out people then selling what they buy. Overpriced tacos that didn't suck, but I'm not paying $6 for a carrot based taco. Drinks were fine, but it's just a weird vibe overall. White Star made them fun. It's also strange when the owner of their Google page would constanty attack their negative reviews. There are respectable ways to disagree with opinions, then there's the Govt Taco way to do that. Also, it only survived as long as it did because of overly aggressive advertising from Guaranty. Probably would've died in COVID.
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The Shed
Never had it, but IIRC they are based out of MS and only got attention because of that, along with aggressive advertising. Consensus was that it's another place that does OK pork BBQ (which is typical of Louisiana) and bad brisket. 225 Awards have been BS for years, so those mean nothing. I think also one of the BR owners was the mother of the girl who died at the train tracks in that random shooting. Likely that she gave up on the business then, and who could blame her? The location is also notorious for places going out in less than 2 years. It's in damn beach volleyball facility not named Mangos.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:18 am to SixthAndBarone
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But people hate on them because they didn’t change the way they were 50 years ago and they didn’t want non customers parking on their property while they supported another business across the street.
They also had the worst customer service I’ve ever seen in a restaurant, and the pizza was awful. That place survived its last two+decades on nostalgia alone.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:37 am to notiger1997
I’m the turd for pointing out that a local family-owned restaurant operated for 75 years and was a part of the culture of our city for multiple generations?
Yes, they went downhill at the end, and they should have kept the place clean and there’s no excuse for that. But it’s easy to understand why they didn’t invest money to upgrade anything. They had no ambition to move the restaurant into the next generation. They left it as it was until they had to close. It’s unfortunate they didn’t close on a high note and let the business deteriorate until the end, but it’s EASY to see why. They had nobody interested in moving it forward, they just stayed opened as long as they could. Why would they put money into the place when they knew it wasn’t going to last?
The stories of them being rude is definitely a black eye and I won’t defend that. But posters on here are overlooking the 50+ years of service before the current times. Everyone acts like they want local restaurants and when you have one that lasts 75 years, yall want to shite on them.
Was the pizza mediocre? Probably, but the point is that it was a generational tradition/culture/staple. Isn’t that what we want in our community?
I’ve never met the owners and don’t know them. I just defend the restaurant (not the owners) because it’s exactly what we claim to want in our city:
- local
- family owned
- generational
- traditional
- still the same after decades
- iconic
- nostalgia
I don’t defend their rudeness or the fact that they stopped cleaning at the end. But I do defend the nostalgic local business that lasted for generations and was an icon in our community. I wish we had more places like this.
Yes, they went downhill at the end, and they should have kept the place clean and there’s no excuse for that. But it’s easy to understand why they didn’t invest money to upgrade anything. They had no ambition to move the restaurant into the next generation. They left it as it was until they had to close. It’s unfortunate they didn’t close on a high note and let the business deteriorate until the end, but it’s EASY to see why. They had nobody interested in moving it forward, they just stayed opened as long as they could. Why would they put money into the place when they knew it wasn’t going to last?
The stories of them being rude is definitely a black eye and I won’t defend that. But posters on here are overlooking the 50+ years of service before the current times. Everyone acts like they want local restaurants and when you have one that lasts 75 years, yall want to shite on them.
Was the pizza mediocre? Probably, but the point is that it was a generational tradition/culture/staple. Isn’t that what we want in our community?
I’ve never met the owners and don’t know them. I just defend the restaurant (not the owners) because it’s exactly what we claim to want in our city:
- local
- family owned
- generational
- traditional
- still the same after decades
- iconic
- nostalgia
I don’t defend their rudeness or the fact that they stopped cleaning at the end. But I do defend the nostalgic local business that lasted for generations and was an icon in our community. I wish we had more places like this.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:44 am to SixthAndBarone
The people at Pocarello's could be a bit snappy too, but I wish they were still open. Pocarello's, Fleur de Lis, and Pinetta's all being gone now is not a good thing.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:45 am to SixthAndBarone
I think the issue some of us are having is how, exactly, you're defining "the end". I grew up in Lafayette, and I would say the old Pete's would be the rough nostalgia equivalent. Mediocre food, but it's where we always went after sports games as a kid. So on some level, I get it.
But I moved to Baton Rouge about twenty years ago. I went to FDL for the first time about fifteen years ago after hearing over and over again that it was the best pizza in Baton Rouge. And fifteen years ago it was filthy, with mediocre at best pizza, and rude waitstaff. The few times since that I was dragged back against my will, the experience was identical.
And yet, until the day they closed, I would routinely hear people argue that FDL was the best pizza in Baton Rouge.
I certainly don't denigrate them for keeping a business open for three quarters of a century. And at some point, they might have been great. But when the last fifteen years, at a minimum, have been dirty, rude mediocrity, expecting people to continue treating them with kid gloves is a bit much to ask, in my opinion.
But I moved to Baton Rouge about twenty years ago. I went to FDL for the first time about fifteen years ago after hearing over and over again that it was the best pizza in Baton Rouge. And fifteen years ago it was filthy, with mediocre at best pizza, and rude waitstaff. The few times since that I was dragged back against my will, the experience was identical.
And yet, until the day they closed, I would routinely hear people argue that FDL was the best pizza in Baton Rouge.
I certainly don't denigrate them for keeping a business open for three quarters of a century. And at some point, they might have been great. But when the last fifteen years, at a minimum, have been dirty, rude mediocrity, expecting people to continue treating them with kid gloves is a bit much to ask, in my opinion.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:19 am to Joshjrn
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expecting people to continue treating them with kid gloves
I agree. I feel the posters overlook 50 years of a city staple and trash the entire business based off their final years. That’s my point. Don’t shite on their accomplishments because of their ending. I will never excuse rudeness nor uncleanliness but I understand why they weren’t changing the interior, the cash only, etc.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:21 am to Joshjrn
I really liked Fleur de Lis pizza. I guess it was just a different style of pizza that I grew up eating. I only had it maybe twice in the decade before it closed, but I still enjoyed it.
To me, the most overrated pizza joint that survives on nostalgia is Pastime. Some of their poboys are decent though.
To me, the most overrated pizza joint that survives on nostalgia is Pastime. Some of their poboys are decent though.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 9:26 am
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:51 am to fallguy_1978
They're both overrated because those pizzas were popular back when locals didn't know what good pizza tasted like. People love nostalgia and a lot of BR residents do not like change, that's why they packed FDL up until it closed. Same goes for places like Superior. It should never be in the list of top Tex-Mex for food quality. Don't get me wrong, it's not terrible, but there are far better options around town. The only reason it's popular is because it has a margarita that people will claim uses Everclear when in fact all they use is a really cheap plastic bottle tequila.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:58 am to CrazyTigerFan
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d Pinetta's a
I had no idea Pinettas closed.
Damn, I loved that place.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:10 am to BilbeauTBaggins
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They're both overrated because those pizzas were popular back when locals didn't know what good pizza tasted like.
I've had pizza from plenty of highly rated pizza places all over the country, and I still enjoyed FDL because it was a different style of pizza. To each their own.
Pastime tastes like a Red Baron to me, just with a lot more cheese.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 11:40 am
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:17 am to SixthAndBarone
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But people hate on them because they didn’t change the way they were 50 years ago and they didn’t want non customers parking on their property while they supported another business across the street.
I thought it had to do with the owners yelling at staff in front of customers. For me it was the shitty pizza.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:40 am to LouisianaLady
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Baton Rouge's most notable restaurants
Well the article got off to a poor start by calling any of these places notable restaurants.
Fleur de Lis - I mean this place was around for decades. Not bad for a restaurant that was known for poor pizza and terrible customer service.
Gov't Taco - Deserved to close because it was terrible.
The Shed - Poor location and average BBQ is a combo for going under.
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