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Where did my Gumbo go wrong?

Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:49 pm
Posted by Bigryno7
Nashville
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:49 pm
Followed Isaac Toups’ recipe yesterday and made a dark roux gumbo from Chasing the Gator. I followed the directions very carefully. However, it seems like my roux didn’t bind to the stock (pictures below). I’ve made gumbo numerous times before, although a lighter roux version, and never had that problem. What would cause the roux not to bind correctly? He did note to “not bring to a boil” as you can burn the roux. I was very careful about my temperatures and even used my instant read thermometer to make sure temps got no higher than 205 before cutting the fire low. Here are some pics of the process.





Dark Roux






Roux not binding to stock


There are a lot of good cooks on this board and I would appreciate any real advice. Thanks!
Posted by clownbaby
beezwacks not yours
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:52 pm to
Looks really oily. What ratio of flour to oil/butter did you use?
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:52 pm to
IMO, you didn't heat the gumbo enough after combining. Bring it to a boil and you'll be fine.
Posted by Bigryno7
Nashville
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:56 pm to
That’s what I was thinking. But the recipe clearly states to not bring to a boil.
Posted by Bigryno7
Nashville
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:56 pm to
1:1. I also drained excess oil on top even though his recipe says not to.
This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 7:59 pm
Posted by NOLATiger71
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:07 pm to
How old is your flour? What type of flour?

Lol
This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 8:37 pm
Posted by clownbaby
beezwacks not yours
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:10 pm to
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How old is your flower? What type of flower?


Lol c’mon man
Posted by Trout Bandit
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
15030 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:15 pm to
Fresh flower makes a difference.
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:17 pm to
I think the separation problem usually has to do with the relative temperatures of the stock and roux when you blend them together. Going very slowly, mixing just a little bit in at a time while whisking, makes breaking less likely to happen.

When I had it happen to me, boiling vigorously was not the answer. I had to whisk the hell out of it for almost a half hour to get it the way it should be.
This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 8:49 pm
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:19 pm to
What was the temp of the water or stock when you added it?

This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 8:20 pm
Posted by Winston Cup
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:24 pm to
Bring the leftovers for lunch tomorrow
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
10509 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

Fresh flower makes a difference


Well crap, about the time I learn about adding bay leaves from a tree I have to start adding some kind of fresh flower. Is it Hibiscus? It better not be a damn rose because those things are hard to grow.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
7183 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:29 pm to
Did you use old flour? Looks like the flour may have been old, in which case it has been saturated with water from the humidity in the air and will cause problems with oil sticking to the flour, in my experience.

ETA: did you skim the excess oil floating on top of the gumbo after you brought it to a boil?
This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 8:31 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:36 pm to
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Bigryno7


Damn dude. Don’t bring to a boil and don’t skim the oil off the top? I thing you went wrong by listening to Toups.
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:56 pm to
Bring broth to a low boil before pouring into roux.
Posted by Bigryno7
Nashville
Member since Jun 2009
1525 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 9:13 pm to
Room temp
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 9:16 pm to
Im probably an outlier here, but I always add cool roux to boiling stock
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 9:19 pm to
Usually cold vs hot ...

I would keep it on the stove and continue to stir to bring it back in.
Posted by Bigryno7
Nashville
Member since Jun 2009
1525 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 9:20 pm to
Flour wasn’t old. I had only used it once and sealed in ziploc bag. I’m thinking I should have brought to a boil.
Posted by Bigryno7
Nashville
Member since Jun 2009
1525 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 9:25 pm to
Thanks!
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