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What temperature is too hot to cook pizza?

Posted on 1/8/19 at 8:52 am
Posted by al_cajun
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 8:52 am
Last night I used a new pizza oven I have and it was up to 960 to 1000 degrees. It was too hot to cook pizza on, the crust was trying to burn before the pizza could cook thru. Luckily I was able to recognize this and save the pizza by turning down the temp. So it got me thinking what temp is too hot and whats the correct temp to cook a pizza at?

It is the Green Mountain Grills pizza oven attachment. Honestly the front of it was 960+, I am sure the back of the pizza oven was well over 1000 degrees.


This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 9:12 am
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
5806 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 8:57 am to
Can I ask exactly what fire breathing hell demon you used to cook pizzas at 1000 degrees Fahrenheit presumable in a residential setting?

I cook mine in my oven using a high preheat for an hour
(about 500 degrees) and then under the broiler with a baking steel.

I think the temperature you used is very high for pizzas. Maybe Neapolitan style cooks that high, but that is a very specific dough/toppings combo that can work in an extreme high heat. Though it does produce a soupy middle, as sort of its trademark.
Posted by al_cajun
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:01 am to
Updated it with some pictures for you.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:20 am to
quote:

Last night I used a new pizza oven I have and it was up to 960 to 1000 degrees. It was too hot to cook pizza on


ya think?

I cook my pizza anywhere between 500 and 550 on my Kamado Joe. 6 minutes or so and it is done.

Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
5806 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:21 am to
Jesus, that is quite the machine.

Any way to dial it back or is it zero to hero?

ETA:

Would recommend under 700 degrees and keep playing with it until you find the sweet spot.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 9:22 am
Posted by al_cajun
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
2442 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:23 am to
quote:

ya think?

I mean blaze and MOD say their pizza ovens are 900 degrees so I figured whats an additional 70 degrees
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27494 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:25 am to
if there is any sugar in the dough, it will start to burn at 600 degrees. If there is oil, it can cause burning past the oil's smoke point. You need to get/make a Neapolitan style dough that is only water, yeast, and flour (maybe a small amount of salt). That will allow you to cook it hot and fast.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 9:28 am
Posted by al_cajun
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
2442 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:26 am to
quote:

Any way to dial it back or is it zero to hero?

Yeah I can definitely dial it back because this is a temperature controlled pellet grill and thanks I think this will be a good starting point. I am looking to cook a pizza like blaze and MOD where it cooks in about 90 seconds not 25
Posted by al_cajun
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
2442 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:27 am to
quote:

if there is any sugar in the dough, it will start to burn at 600 degrees. Maybe that's the issue?

Honestly I don't know I bought premade dough from central market. I will have to check and see.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27494 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Honestly I don't know I bought premade dough from central market. I will have to check and see.

check my edit. You need a dough designed to cook hot and fast or it will burn every time. You're going to have to make your own, most likely. I've never seen a pre-made dough without oil and sugar.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 9:30 am
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
5806 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:33 am to
Make your own dough. I am not an evangelical about a lot of things when it comes to cooking. But I do adhere that in about 5-10 minutes of active work, and lots of hours of dough sitting on a counter or in a fridge, you can make a superior dough to anything you can buy.

I like the Peter Reinhart My Pizza, Ken Forkish, or Pizza Camp recipes. Simple ratios, foolproof instructions, and clear direction on how to do it.

If you have a Whole Foods near you, they sell (and others may) a bag of Delallo tipo 00 flour specially built for pizza. Its one bag of flour, some water, salt, and yeast. Ready in about 2-4 hours and makes very good, thin, crispy crust. Its in the flour aisle.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:44 am to
What sort of crust recipe are you using? Not all are suited for quick, high-temp cooking. Traditional Neapolitan doughs are cooked around 700 degrees.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
26453 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:42 am to
1000 degrees? Holy shite! lol
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 10:43 am
Posted by Treacherous Cretin
Columbus, OH
Member since Jan 2016
1503 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:53 am to
A coal fired oven will get up to 1200 F. The results are amazing.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9947 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:57 am to
I launch my first pie at a deck temp of ~800-850 and an air temp of ~1000. They cook for 60-90 seconds.

The correct temperature to cook with depends on several factors, but most importantly your dough and the thermal conductivity of the stone you are cooking on.

If the dough has any sugar or oil in it, you are going to burn above 500. If you are using a cordereite pizza stone, the bottom is going to burn above 650-700.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 10:58 am
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10602 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:04 am to
This thread reminds me of The Burbs when they find that incinerator in the Klopek’s basement.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32507 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:48 am to
Where'd you get your pizza oven insert? I just received my GMG recently, haven't cooked on it yet though.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15153 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:56 am to
I just preheat my oven to 450 degrees F and use a pizza stone to cook the pizza. Let the stone heat up with the oven and slide the pizza on it and in 12-15 minutes-----done. Crispy crust, nice cheese melt with a bit of browning, perfect.
Posted by jkylejohnson
Alexandria
Member since Dec 2016
14009 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:01 pm to
Forget the mitt one time and you'll lose a hand.
Posted by al_cajun
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
2442 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:22 pm to
Not sure it was a present. I am sure she got it from Texas Star Grill Shop in Houston.
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