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What Seasoning Ingredient Would Test Positive as an Explosive?

Posted on 4/21/23 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 1:27 pm
The Cajun Ninja posted a message on Facebook from someone who said they bought a bunch of his seasoning and packed it in their luggage to take home. The luggage tested positive for an explosive in Houston. The TSA Agent determined it was the seasoning and sent them on their way.

Several other people commented that the same thing happened to them when they brought the seasoning on flights with that seasoning.

Do any of you science minded folks know what ingredient would cause this? Meridian Dog, are you out there?
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 1:41 pm to
Tajin seasoning flagged us coming back from a trade show in Vegas.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 2:00 pm to
That's so interesting. I've never heard of this happening.
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 2:01 pm to
common sense seasoning control is needed.
Posted by Professor Dawghair
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 2:11 pm to
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common sense seasoning control is needed


Concur. It's about thyme.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 2:22 pm to
Probably the nitrates.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 2:35 pm to
I know if you take coffee mate and sprinkle it over a very surface it will sparkle.
Posted by ForLSU56
Rapides Parish
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 2:53 pm to
Maybe a nitrate or nitrite added as a preservative?
Posted by SixthAndBarone
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 2:57 pm to
The question is how did it “test positive for explosives”? Was it an X-ray or other scan that picked up on the physical powder or granules? That would be my guess but it’s only a guess.

I wouldn’t think they are swabbing the outside of luggage for chemicals that may be inside. That makes no sense. Has to be some scan.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 2:58 pm to
A UK security agent explained to me that it may be a cleaning product that was used in the retail store or other "cross contamination." I had a single item flag as explosive, even though I bought 8 of the same item, off the same shelf, which did not flag as dangerous material.

Does the nitrate argument pass the sniff test? (har har) Wouldn't that mean that lunch meat and jerky would fire off the sensors?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 3:06 pm to
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Does the nitrate argument pass the sniff test? (har har) Wouldn't that mean that lunch meat and jerky would fire off the sensors?


It depends on the levels, but yes, nitrates can create a false positive for explosives.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 3:16 pm to
Nitrite in meat - If I remember correctly, I think the calculations are about 0.07 grams of nitrite per pound of meat in meat products. That’s a super tiny amount.

He shouldn’t have had any seasoning that contained nitrite. Maybe he had a sausage seasoning, but then again, most sausage seasonings don’t contain nitrite. You have to add Prague powder yourself.

TSA isn’t opening his luggage and then owning a bottle of seasoning and swabbing the seasoning. It has to be some kind of sensor or X-ray that can detect a powder or a chemical inside the luggage and inside the bottle of seasoning.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 3:24 pm to
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TSA isn’t opening his luggage and then owning a bottle of seasoning and swabbing the seasoning. It has to be some kind of sensor or X-ray that can detect a powder or a chemical inside the luggage and inside the bottle of seasoning.


The x-ray screening is just visual though. I just assumed that the screening saw something suspicious, which caused them to do a swab test. But it's a good question as to whether it was actually the seasoning that caused a false positive, or if that's just the assumption (or if there actually was a false positive). There are quite a few household items that could cause one.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 3:34 pm to
Sounds like it must happen when it's in your carry on, but I'm guessing. There were some other people posting that it has happened to them with other seasonings such as Tony's. One person said she had multiple cans of the Ninja seasoning and they opened every can before letting her through. She was upset because now a dozen cans were unsealed.
Posted by BigBinBR
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 3:42 pm to
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Probably the nitrates.


This is probably correct. Especially if bring back a large quantity.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 4:22 pm to
There shouldn’t be nitrite in his seasoning. Unless there was residue on the bottle from the spice processor. But then again, how did they detect it?
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 4:47 pm to
I have no idea what’s in the seasoning, but parsley, thyme and basil have a nitrate content. I would still think it would take a ton of it to set off a machine so maybe you are right that there could have just been residue on the containers.


Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 4:57 pm to
I never carry seasoning in my carry on bags. I've lost a few cans of Tony's to TSA that way.

I pack it all in my checked bags...no problems ever.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 5:14 pm to
It may be that they have an unspoken limit to fine powders/dusts. Sugar refineries explode. So do flour mills, grains, and such. With the right oxygen mix and an ignition source, perhaps an explosive could be fashioned? It's far fetched, I'll admit.
I'm just guessing.
Posted by BigBinBR
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 5:21 pm to
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It's far fetched, I'll admit. I'm just guessing.


I mean the whole TSA saving us from danger is far fetched so that could all be a possibility.
This post was edited on 4/21/23 at 6:18 pm
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