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re: What did I do wrong? - Smoking Pork St. Louis Ribs

Posted on 5/29/23 at 6:12 pm to
Posted by Zendog
Santa Barbara
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 5/29/23 at 6:12 pm to
don't cook above 208 degrees
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:07 pm to

I’ve never understood all of the ridiculous things guys go through to cook ribs.

St. Louis ribs are my favorite

Peel off the silver skin

Salt
Pepper
Garlic powder

Put in the oven till you see the meat shrinking away from the end of the bone

If you want a smoke flavor

Do the same on the bbq pit with wood chips


Make your favorite bbq dipping sauce on the side

I make a “bbq gravy”

I use Stubbs original and add beer and chicken broth and cook down so it has a “light” bbq flavor


Why guys make an all day science project out of cooking pork ribs is beyond me.

Unless you want to spend the day outside your house!
Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
23666 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:18 pm to
It was the hickory. It can produce a nasty bitter undertone. There is nothing wrong with dirty smoke otherwise and can actually help you get amazing color on some meat. (Turkey) Ditch the hickory for anything else.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
9946 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:30 pm to
I cannot agree with this. Hickory is great. Dirty smoke is bad.
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/29/23 at 11:01 pm to
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I had gray smoke the whole time.


Doesn’t sound good then. But I smoke on an offset and I know sixth does too. Gray smoke means you are just smoldering your coals and wood. You want an active fire so may need to adjust your vents or coal and wood placement to get that
Posted by mingoswamp
St. Louis
Member since Aug 2017
970 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 11:22 pm to
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here it is. I had gray smoke the whole time.


Dumping a bunch of chips or chunks and not letting them catch fire will give you gray smoke. Thin blue smoke (TBS) is what you want when you put the meat on. After the meat hits +-165*, it's absorbed as much smoke as it can.
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8412 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 7:04 am to
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proper chew


:rollseyes:
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84442 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 9:51 am to
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do not wrap pork, any pork.
This is wrong, dumb and offensive.


OP, shorten the wrap(1.5) and if you are going to add anything, limit it to butter and BBQ sauce. A little goes a long way.
Posted by BIG Texan
Texas
Member since Jun 2012
1674 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:14 am to
Why did you wrap anyway?. Only wrap if they are cooking dry. There is no set time line for ribs. I cook until they feel and look done then test with the last little rib on the end if it come clean on a bite then 20 to 30 minutes more after I paint with a sauce like Saltlick BBQ sauce. (IMHO is the best for glazing and let’s the rub come through.) I cook on a big green egg at 250-275 always less than five hours.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
13787 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:00 am to
quote:

They may be "overcooked" but when everyone in your family prefers that style, who cares what a KCBS judge thinks.


I prefer a little chew on my ribs but yeah...everyone seems to want the "fall off the bone" ribs so that's what I end up doing typically. If it's just me, then that is overcooked.
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
1394 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:28 am to
Peel
Brine
2.5 to 3 in smoke 210-220
Baste Sauce on them
1.5 wrapped @200
Back in smoker Unwrapped 1/2 hr to 45 minutes.

Or

I do Memphis Rendezvous way on grill and flip every 10 minutes.

Peel and Brine (if you have the time)

cover with rub (I use a lower salt version if I brine)

350-400 grill lowered to @ 325 after first two flips

Grill and flip every 10 minutes mopping with a thin sauce after second turn. I thin my sauce with apple cider vinegar and add rub to it.

Usually do 6-8 flips until I see meat pulling away from bone.

Quick and easy. Family actually prefers this method.

Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
100250 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:38 am to
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This is wrong, dumb and offensive.




Seems to me the ones triggered here standing on top of the wrap mountain screaming and cursing really don’t know why they are wrapping or explaining it outside of I want fall off the bone.

Want fall off the bone? Great, enjoy. Boiling them in foil will accomplish that.

Only thing else I would say, again, is try butcher paper instead.
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 10:42 am
Posted by Professor Dawghair
Member since Oct 2021
1556 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Memphis Rendezvous way on grill


One of the first things I ever cooked on BGE was ribs direct on a raised grate. I remember thinking at the time, they were the best ribs I had ever cooked myself. And I've never tried to do it again for some weird reason.

Slow cooking direct over coals has some advantages... just takes more attention.
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14538 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 1:36 pm to
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I stopped doing the 3,2,1 method


Right. I haven't used 3,2,1 in years because it results in ribs that are too mushy soft, as in the bone falls out as you pick up the rib and I don't like mushy rib meat, preferring some slight resistance as the meat pulls away from the bone.

Cooking ribs is really easy.

I pull the membrane from the back side, season and cook with indirect heat from charcoal with water-soaked wood chips at 225 - 250 degrees for maybe 90 minutes, then increase the heat to 250-300 for 20-30 minutes, watching them as they dry out. If anyone wants sauce on their ribs, I will add it during the last 20 minutes, so that it dries out before pulling the ribs.

I also monitor the bones at the edges as the ribs cook. When the rib meat pulls back, exposing the bone ends, they are done and the ribs need to be pulled.
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 1:38 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84442 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

Seems to me the ones triggered here standing on top of the wrap mountain screaming and cursing really don’t know why they are wrapping or explaining it outside of I want fall off the bone.

Want fall off the bone? Great, enjoy. Boiling them in foil will accomplish that.

Only thing else I would say, again, is try butcher paper instead.

You've lost it. Maybe take a break, re-read the thread and count your downvotes

I do prefer butcher for briskets, but foil works better for ribs.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
100250 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:36 pm to
quote:

You've lost it. Maybe take a break, re-read the thread and count your downvotes


Jesus who gives a frick about that.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49148 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:23 pm to
Votes are silly. They hold zero weight for me, anyway.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84442 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:36 am to
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Jesus who gives a frick about that.
This attitude isn't going to help with your issues.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
100250 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:22 am to
imma good
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70603 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 12:46 pm to
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everyone seems to want the "fall off the bone" ribs


My dearly departed mother was an excellent cook, except for ribs. She would simply grill them over direct heat and then sauce them. They were terribly tough and filled every crevice between your teeth. I was in college before I ever had a tender rib and it blew my mind that ribs could be tender. When those BBQ competition shows started airing in the mid 2000's I learned about the wrap technique and I started making ribs on my own again because now I knew how to make them tender. This eureka moment and my childhood experience with ribs is perhaps why I like the wrap technique so much.


ETA- regarding the bbq competition shows, there was always a People's Choice award for all the categories and the winner was never the same as the judge's. I'd rather win a people's choice, I would take more pride in that than the judge's choice.
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 12:53 pm
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