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re: Tin Roof sold?
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:06 pm to Cash
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:06 pm to Cash
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Well he outsourced his production to Florida. I bashed them for selling out but looks like it was a good move.
I didn't see anyone else acknowledge this, so I wanted to point out that they haven't been outsourcing beer production for a long time.
Main thing the Parish team/Andrew did was all of those dumb different Ghost batches a decade ago. Honed in on a recipe for production and didn't lose money because all of us would be like "BATCH 6 WAS THE BEST!! SO MUCH BETTER THAN BATCH 15..." I laugh when people clown on Ghost. It might be Untappd's highest rated beer with the number of ratings (95,000+ currently, looked it up for this post) it has. It is, in my opinion, the best mass distributed IPA in the United States. Want to know why Andrew is fine financially? You can get ~two week old Ghost in the Machine at every grocery store for the entire drive from Houston to Miami and it's delicious.
Next thing...
"NO ONE MAKES A GOOD CRAFT PILSNER!!" -some hipster shaking his walking stick he doesn't need at the clouds. Businesses like to make money and craft pilsners are not at all a good business model. "Please sir, buy my locally brewed craft pilsner six pack for twice as much as your Miller Lite.." -Oliver "Broke Brewer" Twist to 97% of the retail pilsner purchasing demographic. "I wish there were more craft pilsners" makes up maybe 2-3% of the beer drinking community, altogether. Craft Pilsners are a losing battle similar to craft spirits. "Please sir, purchase my organic local craft vodka for $35 instead of your mass produced Tito's go to for $22." Hate on MBC as much as you want, but at the price point, no craft brewer can touch their quality. It's called scale. I'll take a Coors Banquet, Mr. Oliver Broke Brewer Twist.
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:55 am to Tigeralum2008
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Didn’t their Brewmaster leave in 2018? I feel that was a pivotal moment in TR and one they never recovered from.
They've cycled through multiple brewmasters/head brewers since then.
Most of them left because the brewery didn't have the financial resources to allow them to brew the beer the way they wanted to. And frankly, it's a hard job that doesn't pay all that well, and in this economic climate, people left for better paying gigs that weren't as stressful.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:28 am to CarRamrod
quote:Of course it does. Did you even read what he responded to? Have an open mind for one time in your posting life
no it doesn't.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:35 am to BrianFlanagan
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NO ONE MAKES A GOOD CRAFT PILSNER!!" -some hipster shaking his walking stick he doesn't need at the clouds. Businesses like to make money and craft pilsners are not at all a good business model. "Please sir, buy my locally brewed craft pilsner six pack for twice as much as your Miller Lite.." -Oliver "Broke Brewer" Twist to 97% of the retail pilsner purchasing demographic. "I wish there were more craft pilsners" makes up maybe 2-3% of the beer drinking community, altogether. Craft Pilsners are a losing battle similar to craft spirits. "Please sir, purchase my organic local craft vodka for $35 instead of your mass produced Tito's go to for $22." Hate on MBC as much as you want, but at the price point, no craft brewer can touch their quality. It's called scale. I'll take a Coors Banquet, Mr. Oliver Broke Brewer Twist.
Lol tell us you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about without telling us
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It is, in my opinion, the best mass distributed IPA in the United States.
Ok. Makes sense now lol
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:37 am to CarRamrod
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it doesn't. What needs to stop is shitty IPAs. These styles have the ability to have so much flavor difference. While light lagers and pilsners are very very close profile wise. There's not much wiggle room
What a completely idiotic and just clueless take all around lol
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:37 am to AlxTgr
quote:yes i did. And have a large variety of IPAs is great. Having a large variety of shitty IPAs sucks arse.
Of course it does. Did you even read what he responded to? Have an open mind for one time in your posting life
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:37 am to TackySweater
quote:are you joking? Please please... lets get into recipes...
What a completely idiotic and just clueless take all around lol
Lagers and Pilsners have very few grain types and hops. These styles pride themselves on being.... i shouldnt say flavorless, but subtle in flavor). Look at the recipes for all of these.... its 80% 2row or 6row.... hell the big American beers are half fricking rice.
Now lets get to IPAs both East and West. you can use a different hop schedule on the same grain bill have have 2 completely different tasting beers.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 9:41 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:16 pm to Cash
I'll miss Tin Roof. I always liked their Parade Ground Porter, and their recent fruited sour IPA was on point. Be interesting to see what the new owners do with it.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:38 pm to Paul Allen
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all haze and NE style citrus IPAs which I think have lost their novelty
I’m burned out on them for sure.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:47 pm to CarRamrod
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These styles have the ability to have so much flavor difference.
OK CarRamrod, I'll agree with you on the swings in profiles that can happen. It seems there are still way to many on the shelves in DFW. Some just seem overly hoppy and that is my problem. I'm not a fan of really hoppy beer.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:51 pm to BrianFlanagan
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"NO ONE MAKES A GOOD CRAFT PILSNER!!" -some hipster shaking his walking stick he doesn't need at the clouds. Businesses like to make money and craft pilsners are not at all a good business model.
Step outside Louisiana and you'll see this isn't the case. The Northeast has plenty of breweries that do european style lagers only, and they are dong very well.
IPA is still king, but craft lager has taken some rather big steps in terms of production and sales, especially with the advent of Italian Pils, New Zealand Pils, etc...
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Hate on MBC as much as you want, but at the price point, no craft brewer can touch their quality.
This is false. Small local craft is equal if not exceeding quality of BMC, with the added benefit of flavor, as opposed to bland barely beer.
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It's called scale. I'll take a Coors Banquet, Mr. Oliver Broke Brewer Twist.
Have you ever tried a quality craft lager? There are 3 great lager breweries in new orleans alone.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:56 pm to CarRamrod
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Lagers and Pilsners have very few grain types and hops. These styles pride themselves on being.... i shouldnt say flavorless, but subtle in flavor).
Depends on the style.
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Look at the recipes for all of these.... its 80% 2row or 6row....
Lagers, it's all about yeast, style, and technique. I can brew a pilsner with 100% 2row with different lager yeasts and get different flavor profiles. You add in complexity of technique...decoction vs step mash, open fermentation vs. closed, spunding, horizontal fermentation.... It can vary wildly, which is what i'm loving about brewing lagers now. Hell, even the variety of beer faucets can have some minor affects on perceived flavor/aroma. The side pull Lukr taps, and the CM Becker faucets give lagers that German or Czech authenticity.
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Now lets get to IPAs both East and West. you can use a different hop schedule on the same grain bill have have 2 completely different tasting beers.
I find that IPAs are way more similar than lagers, especially when you are dealing with hazy's.
In my experience, however, it is much more difficult to brew a good hazy IPA just because of the volatility of the grist and oxygen. Seems no matter what i do now to prevent oxygen intake, i'm never happy with my IPA's. My lagers, on the other hand, are starting to win awards and score well in competitions.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:05 pm to Y.A. Tittle
It was ok when they actually used two bars but the last two times we went only one was operating with 1-2 bartenders, probably also doesn’t help when dumb arse people want to taste one of every beer before making their decision with 100 people behind them.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:53 pm to BugAC
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BugAC
Well said. It was such a dumb statement all around I didn’t feel it necessary to even entertain a response.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:54 pm to BrianFlanagan
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BrianFlanagan
What a dummy
Posted on 9/25/24 at 1:58 pm to jennyjones
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Yep, he was pretty risk averse for a long time until he built up and established demand into a regional brand It took a long time for them to add a canning line and add production capacity. Other breweries with larger facilities have come and gone during the time parish has been around
What is really the differentiator is that they have a national reputation for producing outstanding beer. If you look at the NE-style IPA rankings on BA, DDH Ghost is #13 and Ghost is ~60. Practically every other offering in that range is from a Tree House/Trillium/Other Half level brewery that’s been churning out whales for practically a decade.
On that note, check out Tree House’s YouTube channel sometime. They’ve really invested in on-site consumption and amenities throughout their footprint, it’s pretty crazy when you compare to local taprooms.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 2:39 pm to Dead Mike
$5 crowler and $12 crowler 3 packs for everything they have until it's gone. None of their regular beers but it's still something.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 6:55 pm to Dead Mike
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rankings on BA, DDH Ghost is #13 and Ghost is ~60. Practically every other offering in that range is from a Tree House/Trillium/Other Half level brewery that’s been churning out whales for practically a decade.
Because that’s just a big circle jerk for ipa bros to talk about how cool they are for drinking the next best haze bro ipa
The fact that you used the term whale tells us everything we need to know.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:11 pm to Dead Mike
DDH Ghost Isn't a New England Pale Ale?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:14 pm to TackySweater
No, it’s an amazing beer. It lives up to the respect it gets. No need to shite on a LA brewery pumping out world class beer
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