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The perfect Roux for Gumbo?

Posted on 11/1/21 at 12:01 pm
Posted by DUKE87
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 12:01 pm
Is Butter, oil or Lard better? And is your ratio 1:1?

Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 12:02 pm to
lard, 2:1
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 12:04 pm to
I only use butter if I'm doing a blonde roux. I believe it is easy to burn it if you want a darker roux, which is what most use for gumbo.

I usually use veggie oil + rendered fat from browning chicken and sausage beforehand.

My ratio is 1:1 but I usually tinker with it once I start cooking it because I know the consistency that I want.
This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Mad Dogg
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 1:19 pm to
Mill your own flour and use whale blubber like the rest of us.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 1:50 pm to
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I only use butter if I'm doing a blonde roux. I believe it is easy to burn it if you want a darker roux, which is what most use for gumbo.


Try ghee.
Posted by slinger1317
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 1:56 pm to
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perfect Roux for Gumbo


Kary's Dark
Posted by Deep Purple Haze
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 2:11 pm to
jar, kary's
Posted by DaBeerz
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 2:12 pm to
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Kary's Dark


This, can’t tell much difference
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 2:34 pm to
Savoie's or Kary's dark if I'm not in the mood for stirring constantly for an hour.

If I'm making it myself, either a neutral vegetable oil or lard. I find butter burns way too easily and it's just not right for a gumbo roux. It's not a lighter blonde roux like you might see in Parisian French cooking. It's a less delicate, dark, peasant type roux that I'm looking for, and I don't think butter stands up well to that kind of treatment. Plus, poor people making gumbo wouldn't have had a whole lot of butter available and likely would've used rendered animal fats for things like roux-making and saved the butter for other things.
This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 2:37 pm
Posted by labguy
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 4:03 pm to
I usually use Kary's or if I make the roux myself I use oil. Approximately 1:1 but a little extra flour. Bacon grease makes a fine roux also.
Posted by Topo Chico
Houston
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 4:42 pm to
The oil is only there to brown the flour. At the end of the cook, most of the oil will be skimmed off, so I generally use less than 1:1 oil:flour ration.

Also cook on high heat and add oil as needed as it cooks off. A dark roux shouldnt take more than 10-15 min, just dont be afraid of the heat!
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 4:43 pm to
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Try ghee.
For a blonde roux?
Posted by Prosecuted Collins
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 4:44 pm to
A whisk is your friend with this.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 11/2/21 at 7:07 am to
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For a blonde roux?


Or dark. It won't scorch as easily.
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
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Posted on 11/2/21 at 7:56 am to
I use canola or avocado oil. Ratio is 3/4 cup oil to 1 cup flour (that's a big roux btw...large pot gumbo).
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 11/2/21 at 8:05 am to
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Mo Jeaux


Cool. Seems like that would be a pricey roux to make. Is it that much better?
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 11/2/21 at 8:17 am to
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Savoie's or Kary's dark if I'm not in the mood for stirring constantly for an hour.


You don't have to do this to get a dark roux. I've never had to go longer than 20 minutes for my roux. I've mentioned this before, but i'll tell it again.

On Sunday mornings there used to be a radio program with John Folse. A lady called in and asked, "how do i make a dark roux without having to stir for an hour". The answer: Heat your oil on high or medium high just before you get to smoke point. Once you see that first whiff of smoke, toss in your flour, begin stirring, and back your heat down to medium-high and stir. Once the roux gets to the color you like, add the vegetables. The water in the vegetables stops the roux from cooking. Continue stirring for another 5 minutes or so. Add your garlic, stir another 3-4 minutes. Then add your stock.

It's really that simple and it's how i make all of my rouxs, and been doing so for many years now. I've never burnt a roux yet.

If you want to take an hour to make a roux, make it in the oven. Much easier to control and you won't burn it. Otherwise, the method above works for a good quick roux.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 11/2/21 at 8:37 am to
Maybe I'm just making this up, but I think your roux will darken faster if you have more flour vs oil in your mix.
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
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Posted on 11/2/21 at 9:37 am to
You are. It darkens faster by frying it hotter.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 11/2/21 at 10:40 am to
Can it not be both? If I put all flour and no oil in a skillet and turn the fire on, it will darken super fast. If I add some oil, it will darken slower...no? I'm not trying to be a smartass...am genuinely curious.
This post was edited on 11/2/21 at 11:19 am
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