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re: Teach me how to barbecue in my backyard

Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:32 am to
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:32 am to
Once you get the snake method and dial in where you kettle likes the vents and wood chunks at the kettle can put out some great smokes. Also the right charcoal. I have had the best and most consistent cooks after moving to B&B briquets for all my smokes on the kettle. Consistent burn, good flavor, and clean smoke.
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
6039 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:35 pm to
Alright some great responses so far.

Talk to me about charcoal and and heat management. Is there a science to dialing in how much coal in what position for what kind of meat? I was watching someone cook ribs and he started with his grill a little hot but said you couldn't trust go by the thermometer, had his coal off to the side and his ribs on the opposite side.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
10827 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:51 pm to
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Is there a science to dialing in how much coal in what position for what kind of meat?
Absolutely there is. Placement of the charcoal as well as the amount will have an effect on the heat, placement of the meat will depend on what it is and the method.

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had his coal off to the side and his ribs on the opposite side
Indirect heat, which is what you will want on a slower cook.

My personal suggestion would be to start with a Weber Kettle, Chimney Starter, a heat controller (charcoal baskets, slow-n-sear, or similar), bristle free grill brush, good pair of tongs/spatula, grill mitts, and some decent meat probes. Simplest cooks will be standard grill fare like burgers, steaks, etc. to get you started. When you want to do your first smoke, start with a pork butt. They are very forgiving, will teach you about stall and temp control and even if you don't get it right it's a cheaper cut and will still be good. Just IMO, others have some good opinions as well that was just how I personally would go about it if starting from ground zero. There are tons of good content creators with good tips for using the kettle. Cookinwidkunchi is really good especially with tips once you want to start getting into longer cooks on the kettle (if you go that route).
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 2:17 pm
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3028 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:09 pm to
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this the right style to suit my needs? Could I do steaks, ribs, burgers, hot dogs, sausage, on this type (not all at once obviously). Is this a huge difficulty spike?


This size of pit is more for smoking meats for hours but you can definitely still grill on it.

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As a kid and teenager we cooked on a round Weber with coal and did just fine, but never really leveled up from there.


The round Weber is perfect and you can do almost anything on it. Start a fire on one side and smoke damn near any meat on the other side. Learn to use the valve to adjust temp (more air = hotter). Rap ribs and larger cuts in foil to make tender and protect from direct heat. Sear steaks and whatever else as needed.

When you want to cook larger portions or larger cuts such as brisket, pork shoulders, ribs, that’s were your large smoker will shine. Same concept as the Weber accept you’ll build your fire in the side box. You can usually build a fire in the main compartment but I don’t think it’s technically designed for that. But for easy stuff like steaks, burgers, hotdogs, chicken, a smaller charcoal or propane pit is much easier to mess with.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3028 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:17 pm to
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Alright some great responses so far. Talk to me about charcoal and and heat management. Is there a science to dialing in how much coal in what position for what kind of meat? I was watching someone cook ribs and he started with his grill a little hot but said you couldn't trust go by the thermometer, had his coal off to the side and his ribs on the opposite side.


People will over complicate anything to death. To the point where everyone is scared to even try or break the forbidden bbq rules. Just get out there, try it out and learn as you go. Build a big fire, pick your favorite meat, seasoning and smoke it off the side. Like anything else you become better with experience
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20061 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:30 pm to
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People will over complicate anything to death. To the point where everyone is scared to even try or break the forbidden bbq rules. Just get out there, try it out and learn as you go.


True. When I started, I monitored temps and adjusted vents like a nut. Now I just set it in a reasonable area and let it go. Check it every couple hours maybe, except not at all on an overnight cook. Great results with less worry.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
107361 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:40 pm to
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I would suggest starting with a Weber kettle.


This. Don't start on propane.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83417 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 3:22 pm to
Agreed. I'm no master of the pit, but I feel like starting with a Weber kettle and maxing out what it can do before graduating gives you a good fundamental understanding of smoking/grilling and the how/why that you might not have to think much about if you start with ceramic or whatnot.

It's also what many of us started with, so there is tons of information for how to accomplish what you want to do out there. And while it may require a little more work/thought than more precision tools, it's not a huge PITA or anything.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3561 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 4:08 pm to
I have the Weber Summit Kamado (actually the Weber Summit Charcoal, but it is the same thing). It is a great grill and a pretty good smoker, but I would start with a Weber 26” - I like space. The 22” is fine though. Had one for 25 years.

Watch Youtube and learn how to use it for grilling and smoking. You may never need to upgrade as it is very versatile and can generate some good food. I think the slow and sear looks handy, but you can use anything, or nothing, to separate the coals to one side for indirect cooking and smoking. Weber makes baskets, you could use fire bricks. Don’t have to spend much money.

Buy it, cook on it, enjoy. Just don’t soak your wood chips/chunks when smoking. Waste of time. I like to intersperse smallish wood chunks/chips throughout the charcoal when smoking.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
8771 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 5:15 pm to
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It has moving parts exposed to the charcoal ash and it is just a matter of time before those parts don't move anymore. That part is a PITA and impedes the function of the kettle.


This is why I gave up on buying Weber kettles. That stupid "upgraded" ash catcher/canister thing is awful.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
20997 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 6:26 pm to
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mmmmmbeeer


OP, don't ever listen to this guy. The kettle is fine.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9250 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 6:36 pm to
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This is why I gave up on buying Weber kettles. That stupid "upgraded" ash catcher/canister thing is awful.


I love mine. They seem to last about 5-7 years and are cheap and easy to replace. Makes setting the dampers and getting rid of the ash super easy.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
17494 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 6:40 pm to
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Do I need wood? Charcoal? Propane?


If you want one cooker to do everything the answer is charcoal or pellet.

If you want the easier of the two then go pellet.


Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
67899 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 6:45 pm to
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Most of the food I cook is grilled. That is rapidly cooked over intense heat, like a burger, steak, or pork chop. The egg ruins it.


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Egg is only for smoking, and there are definitely lower cost options that will get the job done just as well



The Big Green egg is phenomenal for everything from a 700+ degree pizza oven to a 24 hour smoke at 200.

If you’re ruining steaks or burgers on the egg you’re doing something wrong. I don’t even understand your post.

I have a RecTeq and a BigGreenEgg. The RecTeq (or any pellet grill) is quicker and easier but everything tastes better out the egg (or any actual wood burning grill).

If you want quick and easy get a pellet grill. I personally cannot stand propane grills, but they are by far the quickest and easiest backyard cooking method.

I’d stand by most people here and my earlier post: if you’re just starting out go get a Webber Kettle and some bone in chicken thighs and burgers and go from there.
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 6:50 pm
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
67899 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 6:51 pm to
The more I read your post. The less I understand it.

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How many people do you cook for? I am usually cooking for two. The kettle is not the best for that.

What does this mean? I
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
8771 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:06 pm to
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. The kettle is fine.


Exactly….it’s “fine”.

I got about 4 years each out of my last two Weber kettles before the bottom ash catcher would rust out or the little squeeze handle thing would get out of alignment. Their old ash system with the blades and a simple tray underneath was simple and reliable.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20061 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 5:33 am to
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I got about 4 years each out of my last two Weber kettles before the bottom ash catcher would rust out or the little squeeze handle thing would get out of alignment. Their old ash system with the blades and a simple tray underneath was simple and reliable.


The bottom-of-the-line Weber kettle still has the old ash system with the tray underneath. The premium models have the container with the squeeze handles. I prefer the premium because it contains the ash/sparks that drop out of the bottom, rather than risk them blowing away and starting a fire.


Basic kettle ($139)


MasterTouch Premium ($275) [Recommended]; Original Kettle Premium is similar and only $219
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55418 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:06 am to
If OP hasn't figured it out yet, Weber Kettle is where a lot of us started grilling/smoking.

I had the base weber kettle when i finally moved out of apartments and started renting houses. I had that kettle for about 6 years and it worked great. I kept it outside uncovered for the most part. The welds on the handle eventually failed and so i had no handle to take the lid off. In addition, i had a brinkman electric smoker (about $99). I would smoke all kinds of stuff on that. Eventually, the heating element started losing some of it's juice. Around that time, i also received a job bonus and was looking into kamado joe's, and that's where i am today. Been having my Kamado for nearly 10 years now and love it.
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
9243 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:13 am to
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start with a Weber 22”


This is all you need and can sear, grill and low and slow. Plenty of YouTube videos and accessories, Snake Method, water pans, indirect, etc.

In fact, I have a spare 22" I'd sell you, gently used.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
25666 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:54 am to
Several people have mentioned the Slow and Sear, or SNS. I have one and keep it in my kettle pretty much permanently, although it is easy to remove. It creates an permanent two zone cooking surface in your grill.

I often move meats in an out of the direct heat zone. The direct heat zone may be 500+ degrees and the "cool" zone about 300 degrees. I can sear a thick steak over direct heat, and move it to indirect heat to finish cooking.

Chicken should generally be cooked over indirect heat, but you can crisp up the skin or get a little char by moving them over the direct heat zone for a minute or two. If you cook chikcen over direct heat, you will probably end up with a burned outside and raw inside.

The SnS also holds my charcoal/wood for long smokes when the meat stays on the cooler side of the grill. At any rate, the SnS is a good way to easily create a two zone cooking surface, which I use a lot when smoking and grilling.

The picture below illustrates it. I also have a tray made by SnS under the indirect zone. That keeps the bottom of your grill from getting gummed up with grease.

This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 10:08 am
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