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Talk me out of Weber Summit Charcoal

Posted on 11/23/17 at 11:37 pm
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3950 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 11:37 pm
and down to 22-inch Weber Performer. Or maybe th 26-inch Weber Kettle. Is the 26-inch too big for regular use for 2-4 people?

Is the Summit Charcoal really more expensive than an equivalent ceramic Kamado? Doesn't seem that way to me, but people online complain that it is over-priced.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80737 posts
Posted on 11/23/17 at 11:46 pm to
A Summit Charcoal is $2,000.

A Komado Joe 24" is $1,400, Primo XL is $1,300, and a BGE XK is $1,200
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3950 posts
Posted on 11/24/17 at 12:39 am to
quote:

A Summit Charcoal is $2,000.

A Komado Joe 24" is $1,400, Primo XL is $1,300, and a BGE XK is $1,200


The Summit comparable to these would be the $1500 version, correct? By the time these are outfitted with comparable accessories aren't they close to the Summit? The $1400 price for the Kamado Joe is the older model, which may still be available in some places, but I was seeing around $1800 for the newer Big Joe.

I don't have a good permanent place to put one now, so I was leaning towards the greater portability of the Summit.
Posted by Cajunate
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
3573 posts
Posted on 11/24/17 at 7:05 am to
If portability is the main reason for the Summit my guess is because of it not being as fragile as a ceramic. But if you want a non ceramic kamado I'd suggest the Broil King Keg. Ideally the 4000 model is what you'd want but they are hard to come by as that's the previous version. The 5000 is available from Amazon.com or Broil King. LINK Honestly though some have had issues with the 5000 because of the new lower vent design. I have one BK gave me for helping out at a trade show and I don't really have problems with it. it goes for $899.00

Amazon.com's link......
LINK

If you are interested or have questions about them let me know and I'll hook you up with one of Broil King's reps.
Posted by Mr Fusion
The American Dream City
Member since Dec 2010
7462 posts
Posted on 11/24/17 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Is the 26-inch too big for regular use for 2-4 people? 
yes
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
8236 posts
Posted on 11/24/17 at 2:16 pm to
I’m not sure what you get out of it beyond the standard kettle. If you want to sear or smoke a lot get a slow & sear insert. It just seems like a summit would be a huge investment for a small return, if any.

But here is a good comparison from Baby Back Maniac on Youtube. LINK his channel has lots of reviews specifically about the Weber Summit.
This post was edited on 11/24/17 at 2:20 pm
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3950 posts
Posted on 11/24/17 at 9:43 pm to
But here is a good comparison from Baby Back Maniac on Youtube. LINK his channel has lots of reviews specifically about the Weber Summit.

I did watch a lot of his videos. He loves the Summit and also likes the kettle with the Slow N Sear. I thought long and hard about the slow n sear.

I went to Shoppers Choice and looked at the Kamado Joe and Primo today. Ultimately, I really prefer the Summit for my situation where I will probably need to move it around a bit. The cost really isn't so different from the ceramics.

Sometimes you just have to get a new toy, so I went ahead and bought the Summit. I appreciate everyone's comments.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
21521 posts
Posted on 11/24/17 at 10:39 pm to
Enjoy. It is a chunk of change, but Weber makes quality goods so you should have a nice piece of equipment.

You might find some tips and info over at the virtual Weber bulletin board. Very laid back and friendly board full of good BBQ cooks and fans.
Posted by Scooby
Member since Aug 2006
1949 posts
Posted on 11/24/17 at 11:11 pm to
Congrats on the purchase. If I ever get the itch again, I'm going to pull the trigger and get one.
Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 8:44 am to
I'm sure you'll enjoy it. I have all Weber Grills and Smokers. They last for years. I have a Weber Kettle from the early '70s.
Has patent pending on the vents.

This 100%
You might find some tips and info over at the virtual Weber bulletin board. Very laid back and friendly board full of good BBQ cooks and fans.
Posted by Scooby
Member since Aug 2006
1949 posts
Posted on 11/25/17 at 9:16 am to
I also liked the portability and durability of the summit vs the other ceramics. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Posted by Cajunate
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
3573 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:01 am to

Just want to add that you wanted portability but you can't get more portable than putting your grill/smoker on the trail hitch of a car or truck and driving around with it. Not on a trailer but attached to the hitch. You can do that with a Broil King Keg!
This post was edited on 11/26/17 at 8:56 am
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
16906 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:39 am to
I have an 18 inch Weber Kettle. It works great for cooking for a small number of people. But I wish I had gotten the 26 inch one. When you are cooking in-directly the 18-inch is too small.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3950 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 9:51 pm to
Did a pork butt on the new Summit today. It held temperatures pretty darn well. It settled in at 250. I read it tends to run a little hot initially until it gets seasoned, but I think I could have dropped that a bit if I wanted. Surprisingly, the thermometer in the lid matched the one I placed near the grate quite closely in general. Deviated at times, but for the most part they were pretty close. Did not have a probe for the meat, so I was flying a little blind. People did enjoy.

I look forward to putting it to regular use. It is a very well designed and thought out. Impressed so far.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9742 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:39 am to
Wanted to bump this to find out what you think two years later of the WSCG.
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
16906 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:56 am to
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This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 10:58 am
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 1:39 pm to
If you want a kamado style cooker but don't want ceramic. Go with a big steel keg.

I personally think those charcoal summits are way over priced.

I've got one of those knock off "vision" brand eggs I picked up some years back on clearance for around 350.00.

If I were getting something new today, it would definitely be a big steel keg. All big green accessories fit it and it's portable. People also love how well they cook.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9742 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 10:34 am to
quote:

If you want a kamado style cooker but don't want ceramic. Go with a big steel keg.

I personally think those charcoal summits are way over priced.


How long is a big steel keg going to last?

I agree that the Summit is probably priced too high, but compared to its competition it is probably about right at the same time. Spec out a 24 inch BGE or Kamado Joe with table and heat diffuser and see how much it costs.
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
10341 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 11:35 am to
I was looking to reduce the BBQ pits I have, mainly because my every game tailgating days are over, and between the Weber Summit and Primo Oval XL, I opted for the primo. The cooking space available and divider option were the determining factors. I have long been an advocate for Weber, owning two WSM's, two kettles, a small smoke Joe converted to a little smoker, a red head propane and a red head natural gas. The oval XL offers everything these could do, and allows for smalll as well as large cooks. I own a small japanese original kamado that introduced me to ceramic cooking, and the results earthen cooking pots produce are better, IMO.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9742 posts
Posted on 7/31/19 at 11:55 am to
quote:

I was looking to reduce the BBQ pits I have, mainly because my every game tailgating days are over, and between the Weber Summit and Primo Oval XL, I opted for the primo. The cooking space available and divider option were the determining factors. I have long been an advocate for Weber, owning two WSM's, two kettles, a small smoke Joe converted to a little smoker, a red head propane and a red head natural gas. The oval XL offers everything these could do, and allows for smalll as well as large cooks. I own a small japanese original kamado that introduced me to ceramic cooking, and the results earthen cooking pots produce are better, IMO.


No doubt the Primo is a fine piece of cooking equipment, just don't think I want a ceramic cooker.
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