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Sushi in Japan
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:04 pm
Sushi in Japan(Tokyo specifically) can be extremely expensive as it seems most high end places tend to sell the omakase(chef's tasting menu). It's not uncommon to see $200-$400/per for these dinners.
How many of you feel like you would know/appreciate the ingredients enough to justify these prices, or have firsthand experience in high end sushi joints in Japan?
When I go to places that I might not see again for years, I feel like I need to fully experience what they offer, but $1,500 for a couple of meals for 2 ain't an easy pill to swallow.
I'm one of those "when in Rome" type of folks.
I know many on here are as well. Just wondering if anybody has some thoughts on it or buyers remorse.
How many of you feel like you would know/appreciate the ingredients enough to justify these prices, or have firsthand experience in high end sushi joints in Japan?
When I go to places that I might not see again for years, I feel like I need to fully experience what they offer, but $1,500 for a couple of meals for 2 ain't an easy pill to swallow.
I'm one of those "when in Rome" type of folks.
I know many on here are as well. Just wondering if anybody has some thoughts on it or buyers remorse.
This post was edited on 12/5/14 at 3:11 pm
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Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:10 pm to LSUAfro
They pay crazy money for raw fish prices, how much better can it be? Anyone have first hand experiences?
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:12 pm to wickowick
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They pay crazy money for raw fish prices, how much better can it be? Anyone have first hand experiences?
I really don't know
. We're fortunate to get great fresh fish in this area especially yellowfin being plentiful in the area, but that runs $25/lb on the real high end around here. I've eaten sushi at some high end places around the country and doing $100-$150/person isn't the toughest thing to do, but $300+ starts making ya go hmmm.
This post was edited on 12/5/14 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:12 pm to LSUAfro
If I go to Japan, I would destroy omakase if I could get into some of the higher rated places. I already focus on sushi for at least 1-2 meals when I go to New York or LA and find it to be worth it for me.
Will be going to see Ichimura at Brushstroke and Masa at 15 East next week when in NY.
Will be going to see Ichimura at Brushstroke and Masa at 15 East next week when in NY.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:16 pm to wickowick
I have had Kobe Beef and sushi in Japan.
It was OK (good) and overpriced.
Best meal I ever had was a Tonkatsu (Fried Pork) establishment. Had Miso soup, fried tenderloin. shredded cabbage and lots and lots of Kirin Beer.
It was OK (good) and overpriced.
Best meal I ever had was a Tonkatsu (Fried Pork) establishment. Had Miso soup, fried tenderloin. shredded cabbage and lots and lots of Kirin Beer.
This post was edited on 12/5/14 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:22 pm to NOFOX
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Will be going to see Ichimura at Brushstroke and Masa at 15 East next week when in NY.
Damn
Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:24 pm to LSUAfro
My best omakase experience in the US is one of the best kept secrets. It's a place in Las Vegas' Chinatown away from the strip called Kabuto. You can get out of there with dinner and a couple of drinks for just over a hundred bucks, which I thought was a bargain. This place is true to Japanese cuisine and I eat there every time I'm in Vegas. Highly recommended, and make reservations months ahead. (Picture Jiro: Dreams of Sushi)
Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:52 pm to LSUAfro
I did an omakase at Morimoto and it wasn't that high but wasn't far off. The fish blew out any I have ever had before and the variety of selections was amazing.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 7:45 pm to lilwineman
Nice. So, as a person who really enjoys good sushi, you would have no buyers remorse for a $300/person meal at a high end sushi joint(considering it would be on par with their average)?
Just curious here. I have to make a couple of reservations at places that require CC guarantees for up until 2 days before reservations.
I'm doing it regardless. Just curious as of the satisfaction in relation to price. Going to Daniel or le Bernadin I knew what I was getting.... $$$$ sushi is really out of my element as we just don't have many of those places in US and it's not where I generally go for a big night out.
Just curious here. I have to make a couple of reservations at places that require CC guarantees for up until 2 days before reservations.
I'm doing it regardless. Just curious as of the satisfaction in relation to price. Going to Daniel or le Bernadin I knew what I was getting.... $$$$ sushi is really out of my element as we just don't have many of those places in US and it's not where I generally go for a big night out.
This post was edited on 12/5/14 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 12/7/14 at 2:45 pm to LSUAfro
My wife and I toured Japan for two weeks in March. I ate the best sushi I will surely ever eat in my life and it wasn't at any fancy place. I have no regrets, and neither will you. You will never be able to eat sushi around here again without being disappointed every time.
We ate at Sushi Dai literally steps outside of the Tsukiji fish market in Tokyo and highly recommend it. Just get there early. Like 5 AM early. We got in line at 7:30am and waited until 12:15 before we got through the doors. According to reviews, it's the absolute best value, and I cannot argue.. And quite honestly had no experience with good authentic sushi to base it on, but I recognized the quality and the flavors said it all. There was no arguing that it wasn't great and I am forever spoiled.
We also found that tiny sushi place Koyoshi from No Reservations in Kyoto. Jesus Christ. Best Otoro I will ever eat. Best a lot of stuff I will ever eat. No English. Just say "Omakase" and nod politely when they put whatever they want down in front of you. It's literally like eating in an old Japanese couple's kitchen at home. There was some important Japanese businessman in there with his trophy wife eating fugu that kept going on and on about how we lucky we were that we found that place.
There are much more expensive sushi restaurants there, but even the midpriced joints are probably 1000 times better than anything you will find anywhere close to here. Whether you know good sushi or not, you will know once you experience it. DO IT!
We ate at Sushi Dai literally steps outside of the Tsukiji fish market in Tokyo and highly recommend it. Just get there early. Like 5 AM early. We got in line at 7:30am and waited until 12:15 before we got through the doors. According to reviews, it's the absolute best value, and I cannot argue.. And quite honestly had no experience with good authentic sushi to base it on, but I recognized the quality and the flavors said it all. There was no arguing that it wasn't great and I am forever spoiled.
We also found that tiny sushi place Koyoshi from No Reservations in Kyoto. Jesus Christ. Best Otoro I will ever eat. Best a lot of stuff I will ever eat. No English. Just say "Omakase" and nod politely when they put whatever they want down in front of you. It's literally like eating in an old Japanese couple's kitchen at home. There was some important Japanese businessman in there with his trophy wife eating fugu that kept going on and on about how we lucky we were that we found that place.
There are much more expensive sushi restaurants there, but even the midpriced joints are probably 1000 times better than anything you will find anywhere close to here. Whether you know good sushi or not, you will know once you experience it. DO IT!
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 12/8/14 at 2:15 pm to ballacheez
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but even the midpriced joints are probably 1000 times better than anything you will find anywhere close to here.
this is true. You do not have to go to a fancy sushi place in Japan to get great sushi. Now be forewarned, if you are a "roll" person you will be disappointed as they do not do Americanized rolls
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:29 pm to MAROON
We used to eat sushi all of the time in San Francisco, but when I went to Japan for a week I didn't run into many sushi joints. I was served a couple of pieces of white fish nigiri and most meals, but sushi by itself wasn't around every corner...at least where I was. Ate at an Unagi restaurant, and we did one super fine dining meal with the company executives.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:31 pm to LSUAfro
Japanese supermarket sushi is better than anything you will get in the states. No exaggeration
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:12 pm to CrazyCrawfish
I'm sure Jiro's place requires reservations a few months in advance. shite maybe a year now that that documentary came out..
Posted on 12/9/14 at 1:16 pm to ballacheez
So what makes Japanese sushi better than "American" sushi? Is it the freshness of fish or selection? I would think along the coast here, fish is pretty fresh.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 1:23 pm to LSUAfro
Not sure about Japan, but a friend of mine lived in Hawaii for a few years.
One day he was hanging out on the water, and a fisherman cut him a piece of meat off a fish that had been just caught.
He said it was by far the best tasting fish he'd ever had in his life.
The fisherman laughed at him though for not checking for worms before putting it in his mouth.
One day he was hanging out on the water, and a fisherman cut him a piece of meat off a fish that had been just caught.
He said it was by far the best tasting fish he'd ever had in his life.
The fisherman laughed at him though for not checking for worms before putting it in his mouth.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 1:31 pm to ballacheez
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I'm sure Jiro's place requires reservations a few months in advance. shite maybe a year now that that documentary came out.
I looked in to this, but it's not my thing regardless. The meals are typically about 30 minutes start to finish. He believes the sushi needs to be consumed within 5 seconds of being assembled or something crazy like that.
I like to make an evening out of a meal like that.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 1:38 pm to LSUAfro
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but $1,500 for a couple of meals for 2 ain't an easy pill to swallow.
Those meals had better come with a few 'happy endings.'
Posted on 12/9/14 at 2:28 pm to LSUAfro
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when in Rome
i'll get in there one day
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