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Sour gumbo question

Posted on 12/1/20 at 9:32 am
Posted by bengaltigersfan
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Posted on 12/1/20 at 9:32 am
Hearing that putting lid on hot cooked gumbo causes it to sour? Is this true?
Posted by randybobandy
NOLA
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 12/1/20 at 9:33 am to
no.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 12/1/20 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Hearing that putting lid on hot cooked gumbo causes it to sour? Is this true?
I think the lid prevents the tomatoes from properly bonding with the peanut butter.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/1/20 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Hearing that putting lid on hot cooked gumbo causes it to sour? Is this true?



....what?
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37760 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 9:49 am to
I think maybe what you are referring to is putting a hot pot of gumbo in the fridge with the lid on. That could potentially cause it to sour as it will take longer to get down to a safe temperature. I see no way possible for a lid to sour cooking gumbo unless a large amount of lemon juice was added prior to lidding...
This post was edited on 12/1/20 at 9:51 am
Posted by SmokedBrisket2018
Member since Jun 2018
1523 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 9:53 am to
I think you are kind of confusing some things here.
A gumbo will taste sour if it spoils.

This will cause a huge fight but I will start anyway.
When I finish cooking my gumbo to serve the next day I transfer it from the big pot to aluminum pans and refrigerate allowing it to cool quickly and preventing it from spoiling.

Some people just throw the pot in the fridge, lid on, etc and sometimes it does not cool in the appropriate amount of time and will possibly spoil.

Foam in the pot after taking out the fridge is a good sign that it is/was spoiling.

Posted by LSUdoc71
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2012
344 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:05 am to
I'm guessing this idea is likely not a cooking issue, but a cooling issue. Gumbo does fine being kept warm on a stove with the lid on for long periods of time. But when it comes time to cool down and store, don't want it lingering in the danger zone for too long, so take the lid off or transfer.
Posted by bengaltigersfan
Member since Nov 2013
168 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:05 am to
I had never heard of this but a coworker told me about it. He is adamant this is true so I decided to post question here to see if he was an idiot or not. Sounds like he may be an idiot.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71131 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:09 am to
Sounds like someone is confusing gumbo with crawfish.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15147 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Foam in the pot after taking out the fridge is a good sign that it is/was spoiling.


Went to a pot-luck dinner one night and one of the people brought a pot of turkey neck stew----which I love.

When he walked in with the pot and passed me I could smell what could best be described as a well used outhouse.

When he opened the pot, the odor only got worse and EVERYBODY said they weren't eating that. Well, he got peeved and showed us by eating 2 bowls worth. Before the night was done he was crapping and puking at the same time.

Come to find out, he cooked it late at night in an aluminum pot and when it was done he put the lid on it and left it on the stove until morning before putting it in the fridge, still in the pot. It had soured something fierce.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18770 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:11 am to
quote:

Some people just throw the pot in the fridge, lid on, etc and sometimes it does not cool in the appropriate amount of time and will possibly spoil.


A big pot of hot gumbo in the fridge gives potential for spoiled milk and other issues from heating the fridge.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15147 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:20 am to
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A big pot of hot gumbo in the fridge gives potential for spoiled milk and other issues from heating the fridge


I just cooked 3 gallons of gumbo a couple days ago and my thing is when it's done, I'll put the lid on the pot off-center with a gap to let some of the heat escape.

When cool enough for me to touch the pot and keep my hand on it I'll transfer the contents to food safe containers and then refrigerate to cool it completely. I've never had food spoil and never warmed my fridge up enough to make anything in there spoil too.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78089 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:22 am to
quote:

When he walked in with the pot and passed me I could smell what could best be described as a well used outhouse.


while not exactly the same story i made one of the best pots of gumbo of my life this weekend and we had a couple people over for bourbon and dinner. everyone but me had eaten some so there maybe 1/4 pot left and i was very much looking forward to it.

at some point the wife decided to take a box of beef broth out of the fridge and DUMP IT ALL into the gumbo "to make more out of what was left". i walked by later on and opened the pot to stir it and it looked like what can best be described as a public restroom in new orleans during mardi gras. the chicken & sausage were floating around like turds in diahrea water.

needless to say i lost my shite (too many bourbons) and nearly ruined the party until i managed to calm down by taking a few laps around the house moving firewood around.

tl;dr cad has lost control of his wife and has gumbo blue balls
This post was edited on 12/1/20 at 10:23 am
Posted by jmon
Mandeville, LA
Member since Oct 2010
8416 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:22 am to
Could this be from storing it in the fridge after cooking? If you put hot food in a fridge, with lid on, your food can possibly remain in the "bad temp zone" for too long, that is, it does not cool fast enough. Always crack the lid on warm food put in the fridge, and cover once food reaches the optimal temp for storage.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15147 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:30 am to
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needless to say i lost my shite (too many bourbons) and nearly ruined the party


I do all the cooking at our house since I'm retired and my wife still works. I've been told by many that I'm a damn good cook and I do take pride in what I make, but don't tolerate people messing with my pot of food.

Don't think it needs salt and add it to the pot, or it's too thick and do what your wife did. I'll jump someone's shite in a heartbeat for messing with my food.

Of course I'm sure the Bourbon didn't help in your response.
Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:12 am to
My grandma on my dad’s side would put her gumbo to cool on the back porch at night when it was cold out, only if it had oysters in it. No oysters, it would cool inside.
Don’t know why but she did that as long as I can remember.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15147 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:30 am to
quote:

My grandma on my dad’s side would put her gumbo to cool on the back porch at night when it was cold out,


My late father-in-law would do the same thing. I can't tell you how many dishes of food were left on his screened in deck on a table out in the country over the Thanksgiving gathering.
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

I think the lid prevents the tomatoes from properly bonding with the peanut butter.


This will only happen if you skip the microwave and ketchup steps (IN THAT ORDER).
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
11350 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 12:46 pm to
The frick
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18500 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 1:35 pm to
Just had a gumbo spoil due to keeping lid on warm gumbo. Wife was pissed.
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