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So they are watering down Maker's

Posted on 2/11/13 at 6:15 am
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 6:15 am


It's now going to take a little more Maker's Mark to get you tipsy, not that Maker's is the sort of bourbon one drinks just to get tipsy.

Nonetheless.

Maker's Mark is reducing its alcohol by volume by three percent in an effort to meet increased demand, says an e-mail from executives to Maker's Mark Ambassadors.

Update 12:45 p.m. Sunday: Here's a Q&A with Maker's Mark chief operating officer Rob Samuels, where he explains the decision.

In the message obtained by WFPL, chairman emeritus Bill Samuels Jr. and chief operating officer Rob Samuels say demand is far exceeding the production capacity of the Loretto, Ky., distillery. It notes that Maker's Mark has become difficult to find for some of the letter's recipients.

Maker's Mark is low on supply and is expanding the distillery, the message says.

The message adds:

We wanted you to be the first to know that, after looking at all possible solutions, we’ve worked carefully to reduce the alcohol by volume (ABV) by just 3%. This will enable us to maintain the same taste profile and increase our limited supply so there is enough Maker’s Mark to go around, while we continue to expand the distillery and increase our production capacity.

We have both tasted it extensively, and it’s completely consistent with the taste profile our founder/dad/grandfather, Bill Samuels, Sr., created nearly 60 years ago. We’ve also done extensive testing with Maker’s Mark drinkers, and they couldn’t tell a difference.

Nothing about how we handcraft Maker’s Mark has changed, from the use of locally sourced soft red winter wheat as the flavor grain, to aging the whisky to taste in air-dried American white oak barrels, to rotating our barrels during maturation, to hand-dipping every bottle in our signature red wax.

In the past, Maker's Mark had an alcohol by volume content of 45 percent, according to this bottle in front of me. The Samuels' e-mail lists it at 42 percent.

A favorite in Kentucky seemingly for eons, bourbon has grown over the years in popularity in the rest of the world. And Maker's Mark, which is owned by Beam Inc., isn't the only bourbon in short supply. Because it must by law be aged to be called bourbon, distillers have to estimate market demand at least two years (but usually longer) before it reaches the shelves.

We've left messages from a Maker's Mark spokesman seeking comment. We'll update when we hear something.
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
21902 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 6:18 am to
I doubt anyone will be able to tell.
Posted by cheeriopiss
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2009
2142 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 7:08 am to
is there a link for all of this?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115852 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 7:11 am to
There are a shitton of better bourbons than MM
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 7:14 am to
Posted by Phideaux
Cades Cove
Member since May 2008
2633 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 7:20 am to
They sent the email to all Ambassadors on Feb 9, then I saw the UK paper the Daily Mail had the story last night. The email I got claimed increased demands for the product and mentioned how the entire bourbon category demand has exploded.
Posted by Tiger inTampa
Tampa, FL
Member since Sep 2009
2171 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 7:45 am to
As long as they don't F with 46 and I can still get Basil Hayden....IDGAS
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
40383 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 7:48 am to
First they rip the handles off Charter bottles, now this. These tight wad hillbillies are gonna drive me to rely on Scotland solely for my whiskey needs.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
56103 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 8:42 am to
6 year old blended swill
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35942 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 8:54 am to
I love some JB or MM and coke. I tend to flock to the middle of the road liquors. I can tell when I'm drinking well brand but don't feel like paying for top shelf either.

Whiskey- JB and MM
Vodka- Absolut and Smirnoff
Rum- Bacardi (clear) and Sailor Jerry (dark)

Besides Kahlua that's about all I regularly keep in stock.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
9424 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 9:28 am to
I guess Makers is convinced that their price is pretty elastic and that a price increase would drive people to alternatives like Beam, Williams, etc. and in doing so actually reduce their own sales.

An interesting move, cant help but wonder if the rest of the industry will follow suit.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
15145 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 9:41 am to
quote:

As long as they don't F with 46 and I can still get Basil Hayden....IDGAS


Basil Hayden is a small batch Beam product.. Nothing to do with Makers
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 9:49 am to
quote:

There are a shitton of better bourbons than MM


:kige:
Posted by Menetrix
Houston
Member since Aug 2008
920 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 6:04 pm to
The person who came up with this was probably just a Hitchhiker's Guide fan making a joke.

Boss:What should we do to meet our demand? What is the answer?
Random Dude: 42,

Boss: Brilliant!
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 10:25 am to
quote:

Basil Hayden is a small batch Beam product.. Nothing to do with Makers


Maker's is owned by Beam.

Good catch on the 42 hitchhiker's guide reference.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 10:40 am to
I wish they canned 3/5 Makers & 2/5 water. I drink that.
Posted by FredSecunda
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
7188 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 11:44 am to
quote:

As long as they don't F with 46 and I can still get Basil Hayden....IDGAS


Since Basil Hayden's is 80 proof, they can't go any lower and still be considered bourbon. Though for a low proof change of pace, I enjoy Basil Hayden's.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
15145 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Since Basil Hayden's is 80 proof, they can't go any lower and still be considered bourbon. Though for a low proof change of pace, I enjoy Basil Hayden's.


Same here... Always go to Basil when I want something "light". Cant wait to try this 60% Knob Creek Single Barrel tonight though!
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
8220 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 12:28 pm to
This is kinda funny because they have been running all these commercials talking about how their stuff doesn't change not even the packaging.
Posted by Tiger inTampa
Tampa, FL
Member since Sep 2009
2171 posts
Posted on 2/12/13 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

Basil Hayden is a small batch Beam product.. Nothing to do with Makers


Just said as long as i can still get it. No mention of it's lineage, heritage or any other age. Just dig Basil. And just for shits and grins if you connoisseurs can really tell the difference between 88 and 80 proof I'm not sure if you drink too much or not enough.
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