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re: SE BR Restaurant Chat: Who's Dying & Who's Thriving ??
Posted on 6/19/12 at 5:20 pm to bobbyleewilliams
Posted on 6/19/12 at 5:20 pm to bobbyleewilliams
The fiancée and I used to hit up porabellos a lot for the bottle wine deal on Mondays that they quit doing a while ago. I have yet to ever see that place packed. Food is hit & miss. The menu isn't heavy on actual Italian dishes. Lasagna, meatballs, but to me there best thing is the burger and the chicken sandwich. I do miss me some jasmines bisque and rocket anything poboy. George's I still don't understand. If you ever want to waste your money order the roast beef poboy there. Like wow. Just sad. City cafe does good chargrilled oyster and cocktails good. I'm going to visit BR Wednesday afternoon. Chimes for Guinness and then jasmines or city cafe
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Posted on 6/19/12 at 5:20 pm to CourseyCorridor
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I could never understand how they were supposed to stay in business though...and, of course, they didn't.
yeah, some of these places, I just feel bad for the owners. Pumped in their savings for something that was never going to make it, their friends are assholes for encouraging them
Posted on 6/19/12 at 6:20 pm to CourseyCorridor
I didn't know Hebert's Coffeehouse closed, the owners were really nice people. Did Jasmine's close too?
I have been travelling a lot and not able to keep up with all the eateries.
I have been travelling a lot and not able to keep up with all the eateries.
Posted on 6/19/12 at 7:14 pm to Lloyd Christmas
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yeah, some of these places, I just feel bad for the owners. Pumped in their savings for something that was never going to make it, their friends are assholes for encouraging them
The Hebert's Coffee folks opened in a terrible spot and should have known better...Did they really think that the Parkview people & Jesus would make their biz thrive? They were obviously too blind & gullible...But yeah, it's still sad for them.
Posted on 6/19/12 at 7:29 pm to brbengalgal
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Did Jasmine's close too?
I think they're still open...I'm probably the only poster that doesn't care for their food and wish that the Chinese place was still in that spot. The Chinese place that used to be there was not one of those picture menu type Chinese places, and the food was pretty good.
Posted on 6/19/12 at 7:30 pm to Skillet
You can't mix business and religion .. Period .. Remember that "Friends" coffee shop where Tramonte's is ??
Posted on 6/19/12 at 7:36 pm to TigahRag
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Remember that "Friends" coffee shop where Tramonte's is ??
Now that you mention it I do, but barely.
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You can't mix business and religion .. Period .
I concur.
Posted on 6/19/12 at 7:47 pm to Skillet
I agree with the notion of not mixing business and religion.
Having said that, I was never offended by the religiousness of the Heberts and I'm not a particularly religious (nor protestant) person.
Bottom line was, their coffee was good but it was a bad location and didn't seem like a lot of thought went into the business model. Plenty of thought went into the coffee, but not into the business model.
Classic food industry problem. You either have people who think like business people, but part of that is selling generic food (Portico strikes me as this...seems like they put a lot more thought into their presentation than on their food) or you have people who have good product, but poor business models, like the Heberts, who knew coffee from all their years doing missionary work in the coffee-growing regions of the world, but seemed to have no clue that a locally-owned coffee shop with no drive-thru, bad hours and no business plan was doomed for failure even if they roasted the best beans in town.
Frankly, there aren't many "good" locations in BR for things like coffee houses. You have a chance if you have a brand and a drive-through, but coffee houses tend to rely on pedestrian traffic and as local meeting places and there is no pedestrian traffic and no need for a local meeting place in most of BR.
In areas where there is *some* pedestrian traffic, coffee houses thrive - Highland coffees and the place on Perkins not far from the overpass come to mind.
Having said that, I was never offended by the religiousness of the Heberts and I'm not a particularly religious (nor protestant) person.
Bottom line was, their coffee was good but it was a bad location and didn't seem like a lot of thought went into the business model. Plenty of thought went into the coffee, but not into the business model.
Classic food industry problem. You either have people who think like business people, but part of that is selling generic food (Portico strikes me as this...seems like they put a lot more thought into their presentation than on their food) or you have people who have good product, but poor business models, like the Heberts, who knew coffee from all their years doing missionary work in the coffee-growing regions of the world, but seemed to have no clue that a locally-owned coffee shop with no drive-thru, bad hours and no business plan was doomed for failure even if they roasted the best beans in town.
Frankly, there aren't many "good" locations in BR for things like coffee houses. You have a chance if you have a brand and a drive-through, but coffee houses tend to rely on pedestrian traffic and as local meeting places and there is no pedestrian traffic and no need for a local meeting place in most of BR.
In areas where there is *some* pedestrian traffic, coffee houses thrive - Highland coffees and the place on Perkins not far from the overpass come to mind.
Posted on 6/19/12 at 8:02 pm to CourseyCorridor
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CourseyCorridor
Nice post....I'm not much of a coffee drinker but my sig other is...She has all the equipment, and orders supposedly fresh beans from some online place...When I do let her make me a cup of coffee it is delicious and you can tell the difference, much like the difference between garden veggies grown in dirt, compared to the plastic veggies you buy at the grocery store....I wish now after reading what you said, that I would have taken her to Hebert's.
Posted on 6/19/12 at 8:46 pm to Skillet
Hebert"s was a damn fine cup of coffee .. Nice people too .. But you could see they were just in way over their heads ..
Btw, the Coffee Bean has the best chicken salad sandwich in BR, IMO ..
Btw, the Coffee Bean has the best chicken salad sandwich in BR, IMO ..
Posted on 6/19/12 at 9:37 pm to CourseyCorridor
quote:Not sure why you think they're in trouble. Their cash register is constantly in use.
I don't know how they stay open: Louisiana Seafood
Posted on 6/19/12 at 9:45 pm to Degas
I suppose it would be a good time to talk about the yet to open Hibachi place where Ryan's used to be. I stopped in there last week to see if I could get any info as to when they're going to open, but there was one guy on the phone and another up on a ladder painting, so I didn't get to ask. They're quite a ways away though because the place is still gutted. They did install a bar like area on the right as you walk in, and it seems like they're going to keep the old grill area in tact.
It's going to be interesting because they're right down the road from Nagoya buffet. Actually, that whole area is becoming Baton Rouge's Chinatown with Oriental Pearl, Hunan, Hibachi Supreme, Waka, Tiger, and Ginza all within blocks.
It's going to be interesting because they're right down the road from Nagoya buffet. Actually, that whole area is becoming Baton Rouge's Chinatown with Oriental Pearl, Hunan, Hibachi Supreme, Waka, Tiger, and Ginza all within blocks.
Posted on 6/19/12 at 9:49 pm to Degas
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Not sure why you think they're in trouble. Their cash register is constantly in use.
Not sure if this is supposed to mean they are doing good business or something else perhaps more nefarious. hmmmm..
It just seems like a 1 or 2 car place when I drive by. Not that I'm going out my way to notice how they are doing as I pass.
I did get a poboy there once and it was meh. I have kept it in mind for crawfish boils, but it didn't happen this year.
Posted on 6/19/12 at 9:53 pm to TigahRag
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Btw, the Coffee Bean has the best chicken salad sandwich in BR, IMO ..
Sweet potato fries are tasty too.
My issue is you pay a fair amount for not a ton of food. At most restaurants, my wife and I almost ALWAYS end up with leftovers. Most trips out to eat mean we have lunch the next day too.
Not there. It's no less expensive than a place with bigger portions, but we'll eat our sandwich and fries in one sitting, usually.
Posted on 6/19/12 at 9:58 pm to Degas
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I suppose it would be a good time to talk about the yet to open Hibachi place where Ryan's used to be.
Rolled my eyes when I saw it. Do these folks ever take inventory around town?
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that whole area is becoming Baton Rouge's Chinatown with Oriental Pearl, Hunan, Hibachi Supreme, Waka, Tiger, and Ginza all within blocks.
Don't forget Duong Tawan and Dream Berrie isn't far either. Plus, Bay Leaf and Himalaya are nearby if you want to branch out your Asian genres further.
As a lover of Asian food, I'm generally OK with this. I'm too young to remember, but when I was about 3, my mother worked as a waiter in a Chinese restaurant so evidently I became a fat little kid on fried rice, egg rolls and fortune cookies. It's comfort food for me now.
Posted on 6/19/12 at 11:04 pm to CourseyCorridor
Always saw good amount ofcars at heberts, suprised it didnt make it
Posted on 6/19/12 at 11:05 pm to CourseyCorridor
I went to Hebert's once on a Friday night with my wife for a cup of coffee and dome conversation. They had some teenagers in there performing some cheesy-arse Jesus music with an obviously predetermined audience circled around. Terrible ambiance. Knew I wasn't going back.
And I was eager to support a local business.
And I was eager to support a local business.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 6:57 am to urinetrouble
like i said earlier .. even in a subtle form .. you just don't mix religion with business ... stuff like that appeals to a very very small demographic that just doesn't spend a whole lot of money for some reason ..
Posted on 6/20/12 at 7:34 am to Degas
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I suppose it would be a good time to talk about the yet to open Hibachi place where Ryan's used to be. I stopped in there last week to see if I could get any info as to when they're going to open, but there was one guy on the phone and another up on a ladder painting, so I didn't get to ask. They're quite a ways away though because the place is still gutted. They did install a bar like area on the right as you walk in, and it seems like they're going to keep the old grill area in tact.
It's opening is planned for 6/25. They had permitting problems like every other new business seems to have in this town these days. They have other successful restaurants around the country including Lafayette. They will be a lower price point than Nagoya.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 7:39 am to djrunner
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It's opening is planned for 6/25. They had permitting problems like every other new business seems to have in this town these days. They have other successful restaurants around the country including Lafayette. They will be a lower price point than Nagoya.
this hurt Nagoya .. they actually took occupancy of that building on market street in may of 2011 and didn't open until april of this year .. they were in there trying to put up hood vents and shite on their own without inspections and got busted .. it slowed them down badly ...
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