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I don't disagree with you, but if in 1987, you told me that summer league baseball would, by and large, be replaced by travel ball, I'd have made the same argument you just made. No way that many people will pay that much money so their kids can travel around and play baseball.

Except they have.

It doesn't seem viable now but if more of these start popping up and become "the thing to do," then we know from the baseball experience that parents are willing to pay way too much money so their kids can have these things.

I don't necessarily see a day where everybody is sending their kids to a boarding school in Florida, but I could see a sports academy drawing the best athletes in BR, one or two around New Orleans (yeah, I know, John Curtis is ALREADY one...), etc. That will help keep costs down and make it more viable.

I think something like the LHSAA split could help spur that on in Louisiana. It would be tougher in Texas, but in Louisiana, I can definitely see a day where an "elite" sports league develops with a handful of academies. Not that I'm predicting it, but I could see it happen here. Unlike Texas, the general perception is that the better competition is in the private division (especially as you go down in class), so the habit of searching for a sports factory already exists.

I the private schools split completely, I could see a culture here where these places could emerge.
My thought is this: If IMG begins a trend, then the coach is right. And that's possible because we've seen travel ball make traditional summer league baseball obsolete, haven't we? Same thing can happen here.

It doesn't take much imagination to see how

If the "elite" players all start gravitating to "select" teams in the form of sports academies (let's see every state has a few IMG type schools) then high school ball becomes a second-tier level of play. So, in essence, it becomes to all sports what American Legion and other old-school summer baseball leagues became to baseball.

Select ball has sort of killed Legion and Little League and all those old leagues. Now, one can say that Legion still exists, and it does. BUT, in reference to what the coach was saying, part of the reason why schools have so many coaches that are paid so well is there is fan interest. And if high school teams no longer have the best players, fan interest would likely be reduced to friends and family, thus not justifying the big coaching staffs/salaries.

So it COULD fundamentally change things in that regard. Having said that, we're a LONG way from that happening right now.
And Adam Henry is from Beaumont. So they have some pretty good ties down there.
Ed Paris has some Louisiana peeps too if I recall.

All that said, LSU seems to find better players elsewhere, honestly. They cut ties with Hardeman because they are enamored with the likes of Santos Ramirez and Russell Gage (oversimplification, but that's part of it). And they didn't take Adam Taylor because they were all in on Fournette.

I don't think it's inaccurate to say that LSU could be doing better in Texas if it wanted to.

I used to do that kind of stuff. I found old Saturday sections from my high school glory days at mom's house a couple of years ago and enjoyed looking through them.

Funny thing was finding names of people who later became friends who I either had no idea played HS football or just had a vague notion of their participation.

Having said all that, these days, I'm all digital. I might not even see Sunday sections any more.

Still a cool thing to do.
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Living in the past is not particularly healthy, especially when there is good indication that change is afoot. Cam seems to really think that he has plenty of material to run his offense very effectively. Les finally appears to be willing to give the reins to someone he has confidence in...why not just give them the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise...and be happy for a change. I sense real change underfoot with the offense. There are indications from the players that better days are ahead with the offense.


This sort of contradicts a bit of what Cam was saying himself. He's tweaking the existing LSU offense, not implementing his own. He talked about the advantage of having a FB and running lead plays that defenses otherwise never see.

Yes, there will be spread stuff, but there was last year too.

The biggest difference I notice is there is a lot of talk about the number of options the QB will have at the LOS to change into.
He's got that "it" factor about him. Awareness is impressive.
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The love for Jennings from les will make the JJ saga seem like puppy love.


I hate to poopoo at QB that won a bunch of games as LSU's starting QB, but I think Jennings is a much better PROSPECT than Jefferson was.

Jennings reads defenses and puts the ball on the money.
You really think that if you plug 12 back in the lineup in New Orleans you win the game? How about the deer-in-the-headlights look he had in Tuscaloosa?
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The entire notion that an offensive coordinator, any offensive coordinator is just left to his own devices independent of any input from anyone else on staff, much less the HC, is so far overblown.


Again, I think it's a given that there is input from the staff, but what Cameron himself mentioned is that some coordinators do like their fiefdom and want to feel like they need to be allowed to do what they do.

I think to Buddy Ryan's relationship with offenses. Maybe a Mouse Davis or a June Jones wanting to run-and-shoot the way they wanted to and frick the defense.

The point Cameron makes is he won't depart from the broader LSU culture.

Or will he? Isn't that what got him the boot in Baltimore? He forgot the run and how the ball-control offense played to the defense's strength. Isn't that why he lost his job?

I'm not hating on him. Just interesting.

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But on NCAA 14 les lets me call my plays without interference


EA was going to add a "reality mode" for 2015 where no matter what play you call, LSU would run toss lead.

Too bad the NCAA didn't renew the license. :lol:
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im a little late to this party and not responding to anyone in particular but if anyone thinks any OC in the country is given full play calling responsibility with 0 say so from the HC, they are sadly mistaken


I think the heart of the matter is whether it's a harmonious give-and-take or a battle of wills.
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One solution to that is you might try recruiting, keeping, and developing a QB so you aren't put into that position.


I do think that's a root problem. And change "QB" to "OC" and you get a similar story. It's been musical chairs. Of course, there have been bad breaks along the way in that regard.
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Choupique19


Don't think I have a problem with anything you posted here.

Do you think, as others have suggested, Les will respect Cam enough to concede to his judgement more than he has in the last five years?
I thought they threw it around a bit in 08, but they threw it to the wrong team alot.

In 09, Chavis came in and they started improving on defense.

By 2010, defense was dominant and offense started playing to that strength.

I think the defenses the last three years have been exceptional and that is a GOOD reason for the offense to be more conservative at times.
Could those four years have been about Lee and Jefferson more than Miles, Crowton, Krag and Stud?

Could the real mistake been not recruiting high-end QBs before and after Perrilloux, thus putting too many eggs in one basket?
Here's my question:

Cameron is said to be giving more options for Mettenberger to check to. I'm assuming these include more pass options.

What happens if Mett starts checking into more passes and they are, to Cameron, the right checks, but Miles isn't liking the run-pass balance as a result?

I wonder if this is what was happening with Flacco.
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Quick question, how much input does Les Miles give to John Chavis?


I would imagine Les sets the tone with Chavis. Like Cameron talks about. Miles might be in his ear telling him things like "They can't stop our offense, so let's not gamble and risk giving them easy points.' Or, just the opposite if the offense is struggling.

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Lets beat this to death please.


Is it beating it to death? I haven't seen Cameron talk about it a whole lot, not since when he got hired. Les has talked about it alot. Players too.

But it's nice to see Cameron address it and address it well.
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You'll be hard pressed to find an OC that doesn't want his Head Coach's input in all of football.


Interesting quote from Cameron in the story:

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"Personally, I think that's why some teams get in trouble," Cameron said. "They have guys trying to make their mark within a team."


Evidently, there are some big egos in this business that do want their own fiefdoms. I suppose that's true in any business with a lot of high achievers who are brought in to "do their thing."

I don't think it's a given that an OC would come in and concede to the team culture.