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re: Organic Food Myths Debunked

Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:52 am to
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 8:52 am to
about the only 'hype' i've seen thats worth it in my experience is free range chickens. i couldn't believe how much more flavor they had vs. traditional fryers.

at the end of the day, you can argue whether organic tastes better; but because you F&D boardies are shopping for fresh meats, fruits & veggies you have ALREADY WON.

skip the processed stuff and make your food from ingredients you can identify and you're good to go..organic or not.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 9:37 am to
I think I will go with Jones on this. He actually sounds like he knows what he is talking about.

I'm not persuaded by the guys here whose answers are " " and the like.

I do think that Whole Foods does do all of their seafood purchasing from the organic ocean though.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35756 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 9:44 am to
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fresh meats, fruits & veggies you have ALREADY WON
Agree with this 100%.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37829 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:00 am to
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I'm not saying that Europe and other countries are a model for us to go by as they jump on junk science all the time, but I think they have banned the use of anitbiotics in agriculture.


Pretty sure Monsanto's GMO crops are banned throughout most of Europe
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29304 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:19 am to
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I do think that Whole Foods does do all of their seafood purchasing from the organic ocean though.


I think their purchasing is influenced by sustainability more than anything.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:28 am to
One thing I really wish I could afford is grass-fed beef. It is much leaner and tastes different. Think about how a cow eating the wrong food, corn, all of the time affects its muscles and fat development, and if you are a big dairy user, think about how it can affect the dairy product.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26265 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:36 am to
We buy that organic milk because it stays fresh much longer than normal milk that we end up throwing away.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
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35756 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:46 am to
We buy organic milk because it tastes better. As I 'm sure you know it is pasteurized at a higher temp.
Posted by zztop1234
Denham Springs
Member since Aug 2008
3713 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:09 am to
good video!
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37829 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:12 am to
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good video!


not really. The 'experts' they rely on are lackeys for think tanks funded by corporations like ConAgra which have a major dog in the organic fight (and that's evident on Hudson Institute's wikipedia page) The guy from Hudson was completely full of it and wrong. Unless you think a cup of coffee has more cancer risk than pesticides
This post was edited on 10/30/12 at 11:30 am
Posted by DEANintheYAY
LEFT COAST
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:26 am to
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Chickens have been bred over the last 50 years to grow like machines. Their feed is specifically designed for maximum growth. The feed conversion rates are through the roof. We have really bred a remarkable animal. It takes around 42 days for a chicken to go from a chick to a bird big enough to be sold for food. This has been done through years of breeding and improving their feed.


Do you think this is a good thing??
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:29 am to
quote:

One thing I really wish I could afford is grass-fed beef. It is much leaner and tastes different. Think about how a cow eating the wrong food, corn, all of the time affects its muscles and fat development, and if you are a big dairy user, think about how it can affect the dairy product.


Almost all cattle are fed exclusively on grass until they get close to slaughter time. When it gets close to slaughter time they are loaded up on corn as it makes the meat tast better. I promise you this is true as I have killed hundreds of cattle in my day.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:31 am to
If any of you boys have done any farming you should know it is not really practical to grow even a small garden without employing at least 7 dust.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:32 am to
I don't use 7 dust on my garden
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:38 am to
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I don't use 7 dust on my garden


Do you grow corn? You can still eat corn with worms I just prefer not to.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:40 am to
I do not, but my Dad does, and he does not use 7 dust either, and his corn is not infested with worms.

Obviously doing this takes more time and care, but it can be done
Posted by TexasTiger05
Member since Aug 2007
28330 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:41 am to
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I promise you this is true as I have killed hundreds of cattle in my day.

Well hell, where were you in my cow slaughter thread?
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:43 am to
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I do not, but my Dad does, and he does not use 7 dust either, and his corn is not infested with worms.

Obviously doing this takes more time and care, but it can be done


Small gardens may be grown successfully without pesticides but they do take a great amount of work. I could not imagine trying to grow several hundred acres without pesticide. The crop loss would be horrific.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49625 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:47 am to
This is true with pigs as well. They are fed corn during the last thirty days or so and live on concrete to purge the system.

And several farmers on the Northshore, Folsom area and St Francisville as well sell grass fed beef. It's not more expensive. You just need to find someone to buy it with you.
Posted by TexasTiger05
Member since Aug 2007
28330 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:02 pm to
my mom and brother have split a cow, if i remember correctly they said that per pound it's not that more (if at all) expensive than beef at the store. You just need freezer space
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