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Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:20 pm
Posted by Nature Boy
Negatiger
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:20 pm
I consider myself a decent cooker of beef. I've broiled, grilled, and even pan fried high end beef, medium quality grocery store beef, and even cheaper cuts when I was younger. I've gotten plenty of compliments, but IMO I've never cooked one that can compare to some of the high end steakhouses I've been to. I've heard everything from high temps quick, lower temps slow, butter, heavy salt and pepper, get it to room temp before you cook, let it rest after it's cooked, etc. Still, never have I cooked one the way I'd really like it. Anybody have tips or previous experience? Am I chasing the impossible? Love to hear some insights from the FB experts.
Posted by MNCscripper
St. George
Member since Jan 2004
11813 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:24 pm to
Sous vide
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
40310 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:30 pm to
It's more the quality of the cut of meat than how it's cooked IMO.
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:44 pm to
I got a very nice strip steak a couple weeks ago and just pan seared it. Delicious.
Posted by La Cucaracha
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2016
424 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 9:54 pm to
I dry age on a wire rack for at least a week, turning every other day. If I don't grill it, I start it in a cast-iron skillet on the stove, then transfer to the oven. I do prefer the cast-iron method over grilling, though.
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5614 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 11:36 pm to
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I do prefer the cast-iron method over grilling, though.



I do too, but at this point I'm pretty much banned from doing it by my wife. Suffice to say she doesn't like smoke
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49119 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:23 am to
Try reverse sear for a change.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39487 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 5:18 am to
Sous Vide ... Doris Metropolitan.

Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
28423 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 6:12 am to
Do you have an instant read thermometer? It will help you immensely until you get your process nailed down. Reverse sear and sous vide are the two easiest ways. Sous vide has a lot more room for error.
Posted by geauxfish24
Member since Feb 2008
2143 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 6:29 am to
Likely because you don't have an oven/broiler that can get up to 1700-1800 degrees like the high end steakhouses.
Posted by I_heart_beer
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2015
301 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 6:35 am to
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Sous vide


Definitely this.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36271 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 7:25 am to
Put that shite in a bag and submerge it in lukewarm water for like a month
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
8165 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:56 am to


The dirty secret of a lot of very good steak houses.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
8303 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:04 am to
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Sous Vide



Do you just like to fit in with the crowd or do you generally like to sit and wait 3 hrs to cook a damn steak and then you still have to throw it on hot fire to get a crust on the outside.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7604 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:21 am to
For me, it comes down to only two things: having the right quality of meat, and getting it to the perfect end point ( for me it's kind of between medium rare and medium). My most consistent results come from reverse searing. I used to do steaks on the grill, but I could never time them right. I'd have to keep cutting into the steak to see if it's done. With the reverse sear, I'm much more likely to get it right where I want it.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79184 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:23 am to
quote:


Do you just like to fit in with the crowd or do you generally like to sit and wait 3 hrs to cook a damn steak and then you still have to throw it on hot fire to get a crust on the outside.



You seem mad.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
8303 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:34 am to
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You seem mad.



Not at all. The whole Sous Vide thing is retarded though. Did we all of the sudden go back to caveman times. "Hey lets maybe put our meat in a bag and then let warm water cook it, maybe one day someone will invent something that cooks our food faster. I can't wait another 4 hours, I'm starving"


FYI: Get good meat and it will taste great
This post was edited on 11/23/16 at 10:37 am
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
28423 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:41 am to
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FYI: Get good meat and it will taste great


I can get a prime kobe goldstar hand-massaged steak and nuke it over a grill till it's a hockey puck and it'll taste like shite. I can take a shitty cut and sousvide it and it will taste like butter. Both process and quality are important, but process can overcome quality on a lot of things.

I can sous vide a steak in 30-45 minutes. Throw the steak in the bath, go light a chimney of coals, remove steak from bath, and cook over the now hot coals.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
8303 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:54 am to
quote:

I can get a prime kobe goldstar hand-massaged steak and nuke it over a grill till it's a hockey puck and it'll taste like shite



This is just dumb. No shite that it wouldn't be good




quote:

I can take a shitty cut and sousvide it and it will taste like butter.


Go get a strip steak from walmart and I don't care how you cook it, it will taste like shite. Sous Vide isn't some mind boggling, ground breaking cooking method. If it was that simple then every steak house in NYC would be doing it and there would be no demand for high end cuts of meat.
This post was edited on 11/23/16 at 10:58 am
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79184 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:14 am to
If I'm having a dinner party and want to cook perfect filets, using a sous vide makes life very easy.

Roasting a whole tenderloin, portioning out the steaks then searing works really well too.

Reverse searing can be very convenient. I'm sorry you aren't able to keep an open mind.
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