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Learning How to Bake

Posted on 12/13/16 at 8:12 am
Posted by pigpickin
Member since Oct 2014
148 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 8:12 am
I don't really bake anything but recently tried a drop biscuit recipe on a whim that was easy and pretty damn good. So now I'm wanting to get more into baking, specifically more savory things like breads and biscuits. Does anyone have a good book recommendation that not only has good recipes, but also goes into the science of baking? Something that would lay a good foundation that would give me the ability to start creating my own recipes? I've always had good luck with Cooks Illustrated and ran across this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Cooks-Illustrated-Baking-Book/dp/1936493586

Comments on this book or suggestions on others? TIA
This post was edited on 12/13/16 at 12:31 pm
Posted by NEMizzou
Columbia MO
Member since Nov 2013
1372 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:22 am to
I don't have a book recommendation (the only bread book---if you can call it that-- I have read is Lahey's My Pizza one, which is great), but I would recommend you get a good food scale if you don't have one. I don't do a ton of baking either but doing measurements by weight instead of volume has helped me a follow recipes a lot more accurately.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34343 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:44 am to
My grandmother used to host parties for ladies from the church where someone from LSU extension services would come and teach them food science related to baking. She could bake cookies with no recipe and if she didn't have the ingredients for a recipe, she knew what to substitute to make it right. It's really cool stuff if you know what you are doing.

I would just start with basic recipes and work your way up to the harder stuff. (ginger bread and other things that need to sit over night are beyond my ability.)
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50876 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 10:04 am to
the King Arthur flour book is essential
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
10252 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 10:59 am to
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She could bake cookies with no recipe and if she didn't have the ingredients for a recipe, she knew what to substitute to make it right. It's really cool stuff if you know what you are doing.
That might work for cookies, but what I've always heard is that baking is very precise. You REALLY have to follow the recipe for cakes, pies, pastries and the like. Bread and pizza are probably are more forgiving.
Posted by Jibbajabba
Louisiana
Member since May 2011
3920 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 11:04 am to
All i know is that i tried a recipe for basic rolls that someone posted on here a few days ago and they came out terrible. I followed the recipe to a T. They were way to dense and the flavor was off.

I am full well prepared to take the blame for it though. I have never been a baker but I wish with all my wishes that i could make plain ol cafeteria yeast rolls like i had in high school. They cant possibly be that difficult but ill be damned if i cant find a recipe that works. Maybe i just need someone to show me what im doing wrong.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80776 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 11:11 am to
It's better to add ingredients based on weight rather than volume when baking. This requires recipes to be weight based though.

It's much more precise.

- Alton Brown
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
10252 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 11:27 am to
quote:

All i know is that i tried a recipe for basic rolls that someone posted on here a few days ago and they came out terrible. I followed the recipe to a T. They were way to dense and the flavor was off.
Density could be affected by how much mixing or kneading you do. Flavor can be affected by fermentation time or measuring errors. And every ingredient must be exactly what is called for in the recipe.
This post was edited on 12/13/16 at 12:03 pm
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34343 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

You REALLY have to follow the recipe for cakes, pies, pastries and the like

Not so much with fruit based pies. As long as you have enough flower or corn starch to hold it all together.
Posted by txtigersw
Where the west begins
Member since Oct 2011
494 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 12:39 pm to
Second the King Arthur book. Also Brother Juniper bread book has great info. Once you understand the science( or microbiology) behind baking, it's a lot of fun. Especially for bread, ingredients are cheap so do a lot of experimenting .
Posted by Treacherous Cretin
Columbus, OH
Member since Jan 2016
1503 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

Not so much with fruit based pies. As long as you have enough flower or corn starch to hold it all together.


The tricky part about pies is making the crust, not the filling.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 7:40 pm to
I teach noncredit baking classes a few times a year, mostly on yeast baking but also a little pastry. My favorite how-to baking books (not just for inspiration/ideas, but for real technique):
--Bread Baker's Apprentice by Peter Reinhardt. Excellent explanation of yeasted wheat bread hows & whys, plus good photos of shaping, etc. Bake your way through this book and you'll become a better than average home bread baker.
--How to Bake by Nick Malgieri. Not many pics, but a good overview of yeast to pastry, cookies, cakes, fancier stuff. Very straightforward recipes that work, with clear instructions.
--all three of the King Arthur Flour cookbooks (Baker's companion, whole grains, and the cookie companion); the recipes are all solid, dependable, if a bit boring/conservative in their flavors.
--Bread by Jeffrey Hamelman (head baker at King Arthur Flour). This is a bridge betwee home baking and some professional level stuff, as all of the recipes are in weight, not volume, and are scalable/include baker's formula (percentage ratios of all ingredients, so you can easily scale up or down).

Shirley Corriher's two books--Cookwise and the sequel, Bakewise, offer beaucoup technical information related to baking....things like behavior of various kinds of chemical leavening, effects of pH on leavening, fat/flour interaction, effects of various sweeteners and so on. Read both of those thoroughly, and you'll be well on the road to a skill/knowledge set that will allow you to improvise in the baking realm as easily as in the savory/stovetop cooking realm.

Happy baking....it's a magical thing. Don't give up, as good baking requires craft skills developed only by doing. (Kind of like woodworking...)
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34343 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 9:10 am to
quote:

The tricky part about pies is making the crust, not the filling.


i use the land o lakes butter company recipe. It's works like a charm every time.
Posted by X123F45
Dictated not Read
Member since Apr 2015
30054 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

You REALLY have to follow the recipe for cakes, pies, pastries and the like. Bread and pizza are probably are more forgiving.



Depends on the dish. Most pastries and pies are all about temp and minimizing water.
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