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re: I'm a convert to jarred roux, Savoie's worked very well
Posted on 10/22/18 at 4:11 pm to Crazy Hoss
Posted on 10/22/18 at 4:11 pm to Crazy Hoss
That shaker can of Tony's instant can save a too-thin/watery gravy from the trash can. I don't build a whole recipe around it, but it's a nice thing to have in a pinch. Roast something tasty & have a few spoons of pan liquid you'd like to embellish into a sauce/gravy? Tony's instant.
And I find it funny that people object to Kitchen Bouquet's food coloring properties when they'll pig out on red velvet cake, which contains a whole bottle of red food coloring.
And I find it funny that people object to Kitchen Bouquet's food coloring properties when they'll pig out on red velvet cake, which contains a whole bottle of red food coloring.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 4:19 pm to Trout Bandit
quote:
can whip out a dark roux in 5 minutes. Screw stirring anything for an hour.
How do you do it so quick? You just do it really hot?
Posted on 10/22/18 at 4:41 pm to hungryone
I like Kitchen Bouquet browning of stuffed pork roasts and chops.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 8:08 pm to Uncle JackD
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Kary’s FTW!!!
absolutely
Posted on 10/23/18 at 3:50 am to AlxTgr
I once had someone tell me they didn’t use jar roux because they made it with cheap flour. WTF?
Posted on 10/23/18 at 7:14 am to hungryone
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Agree--unless you're using flavored fats (duck fat, bacon grease, or butter), there is no difference between jarred and homemade (using a flavorless liquid vegetable oil). I do give the edge to Kary's over Savoie's b/c Kary's doesn't contain palm oil or TBHQ (a preservative).
Agree with all this. I have done both and the jar is convenient and makes a good pot of gumbo. Last pot I made last weekend I did the fried chicken thing so I made my own with that oil.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 8:39 am to MiloDanglers
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You just do it really hot?
Yep. Have your trinity already cut up and handy. Heat your oil on high heat until it starts smoking. Add your flour and stir rapidly until it starts to brown then knock your heat down to about an 8 and keep stirring. As it darkens, you can drop the heat some but don't go less than medium. When it gets to the color you want, add your trinity and stir well to cool off the roux and proceed with your gumbo. If you burn it, start over.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 8:43 am to Trout Bandit
Agree, I do mine in a cast iron skillet on a gas stove similar but, take on and off fire when I see smoke. I have gotten my roux dark and pushing the envelop. Does not really take that long.
I would like to try the oven method as it gets cooler and jar it myself.
I would like to try the oven method as it gets cooler and jar it myself.
This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 9:01 am
Posted on 10/23/18 at 8:53 am to andouille
Making a roux is what keeps me from making gumbo. I just suck at it.
On the other hand I try to avoid crappy oils when possible (corn, veg, canola etc).
And I bet I can’t get decent ones here without a search.
On the other hand I try to avoid crappy oils when possible (corn, veg, canola etc).
And I bet I can’t get decent ones here without a search.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 8:58 am to Trout Bandit
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Yep. Have your trinity already cut up and handy. Heat your oil on high heat until it starts smoking. Add your flour and stir rapidly until it starts to brown then knock your heat down to about an 8 and keep stirring. As it darkens, you can drop the heat some but don't go less than medium. When it gets to the color you want, add your trinity and stir well to cool off the roux and proceed with your gumbo. If you burn it, start ove
This is the method I use. Every time I post about this "quick roux" method, I get downvoted, I guess because people don't believe you can make a dark roux in under 10 minutes.
I made a seafood gumbo in my big stainless pot last weekend for company. Best seafood gumbo I ever made. People kept asking if I used kitchen bouquet or jarred roux, because of how dark it was. Honestly, i'm used to cooking gumbo in my smaller cast iron, and it's much easier to control the heat. With Stainless, you have to really watch that pot because it gets very hot, very quick. There is no gradual transfer of heat like cast iron. It turned out great though. Here's a pic of leftovers from last night. It's actually a tad lighter than the pic. Bad lighting.

ETA: And I've only ever made my own roux. They are typically done on the stove, but I have done it in the oven with great results as well, just takes longer. I've never used jar just because I find making a roux to a) be part of the fun of cooking gumbo b) love that smell and c) never used jar before, so I don't trust jar. Not saying there is any validity to not trust jar roux, but I will never know if its good or not.
This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 9:04 am
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:15 am to BugAC
I have those same double-handle Tabasco gumbo bowls, given to me as a Christmas present by my mother-in-law. I love them! Gumbo looks fantastic! 

Posted on 10/29/18 at 8:11 am to andouille
OK, I'm coming to you guys for advice about what I did wrong.
On Friday I used to the Savoie's dark jar roux. I did as the instructions noted and added four tablespoons to the four quarts of water.
The gumbo was extremely thin and light brown when done. Really lacked flavor as well. I'm sure I can do better to spice it up, but what did I do wrong to have such a thin and watery mess?
On Friday I used to the Savoie's dark jar roux. I did as the instructions noted and added four tablespoons to the four quarts of water.
The gumbo was extremely thin and light brown when done. Really lacked flavor as well. I'm sure I can do better to spice it up, but what did I do wrong to have such a thin and watery mess?
Posted on 10/29/18 at 8:34 am to notiger1997
I would've used 3/4 of the jar to four quarts of water.. 6-8 pieces of chicken and 1 lb of smoked sausage.. plus the onion, bell pepper, celery and garlic.
This post was edited on 10/29/18 at 8:37 am
Posted on 10/29/18 at 8:37 am to notiger1997
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On Friday I used to the Savoie's dark jar roux. I did as the instructions noted and added four tablespoons to the four quarts of water.
This is the problem I have with jarred roux. I find that I always use too much or too little. Hard to hit the nail on the head. Last night I said frick it and used 3/4 of the jar. I had to end up splitting the gumbo between 2 huge pots to get enough stock in there to thin it out some.
*I now have leftover gumbo to feed 25. Anyone know best way to freeze it? Ziplock? Vacuum Pack?
Posted on 10/29/18 at 8:38 am to bdevill
Yeah I had plenty of chicken, sausage, and some Tasso.
Since I have half a jar left I’m going to experiment one night this week in a smaller batch and add more roux
Since I have half a jar left I’m going to experiment one night this week in a smaller batch and add more roux
Posted on 10/29/18 at 10:30 am to notiger1997
About 10-15 minutes before serving, with the fire off, dump a handful of chopped parsley over the top and let it settle.
If you use a half jar of roux, use a half to three quarters gallon of water, 6-8 pieces of chicken and a pound of sausage.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 10:36 am to hungryone
quote:
can save a too-thin/watery gravy from the trash can.
Who the frick throws away a watery gravy? Just boil and reduce....
Posted on 10/29/18 at 10:42 am to Saskwatch
quote:The stock to roux ratio should be between 6 to 1 and 20 to 1, depending on your preferences. Find your preferred ratio through experimentation and then you can calculate it for any size pot.
This is the problem I have with jarred roux. I find that I always use too much or too little.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 10:45 am to TH03
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Just boil and reduce....
If you don't have enough roux in the gumbo, boiling it longer won't make it thick enough. You'll just dissolve the chicken and have a bunch of bones in the pot of thin, watery broth.
This post was edited on 10/29/18 at 12:52 pm
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