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Hot Dog chili…

Posted on 10/24/22 at 4:07 pm
Posted by Professor Dawghair
Member since Oct 2021
1089 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 4:07 pm
With all the chili talk, I figured I would add this to the mix.

I’ve loved chili dogs since I was little, and there were several pool rooms in my area which had some great ones.

I’m disappointed when I order a chili dawg, and the sauce is like something that should be served in a bowl. I like it when it is almost entirely meat… crumbly with just enough liquid to hold it together.

When I started trying to figure out a recipe to duplicate what I remembered, I began with one of the copycat recipes from the famous Aiken SC Pool Room. They are pretty easy to find online. Most have ketchup, and I didn’t care for how sweet the chili ended up being.

So I’ve tweaked it for years and this is pretty much what I’ve settled on. Using Cento Double Concentrated Tomato Paste in the tube was a game changer.

You could always add some cayenne pepper for more heat and adjust the seasonings to your taste. This just helps with ratios and method to get the right consistency.

1 lb ground beef
VERY finely chopped white onion (about 1/4 cup or less/more per taste)
1 tablespoon chili powder
1/2 teaspoon ground cumin
4 whole garlic cloves
Squirt of anchovy paste or fish sauce
1 tablespoon of yellow mustard
2 skinny tablespoons of Cento Double Concentrated tomato paste
1 tablespoon apple cider vinegar
Splash of beer
Few shakes of hot sauce.
Salt to taste

Brown one pound of ground beef. Break up the meat into fine pieces. Try to break it up to almost BB size. If there is a lot of rendered fat, remove some, but not all of it.

Add VERY finely chopped white onions and the whole garlic. Slice the onion dices so small that they almost dissolve when simmering.

Add Splash of beer if you happen to be drinking one. Add a little water and cook at heavy simmer for 5-10 minutes to break up the meat even more. Keep chopping down on the beef with a spatula to break it up.

Only add enough water to allow for a simmer. Keep adding small amounts of water as needed rather than adding too much at the beginning.

Add rest of ingredients and simmer for at least 30 minutes. Add water as needed to get the consistency you want.

Like many dishes, it’s better after a day or two in the fridge. If reheating, you might need to add small amounts of water to loosen it up. I just try to do that sparingly.




This post was edited on 10/27/22 at 6:51 am
Posted by WillieD
Lafayette/BR
Member since Apr 2014
2037 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 4:09 pm to
Looks awesome thanks for posting that.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11439 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 4:17 pm to
Looks really good, thanks for posting. It kind of looks like the chili that the Dew Drop Inn in Mobile uses.
Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
8313 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 4:24 pm to
More like a sloppy joe consistency - makes sense. Ok I just decided how I'm eating sloppy joe's next time we do those.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
26021 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 4:31 pm to
Holy shite, I want to eat that right now. It’s just the way I like it. I do like a little relish or peppers on it as well.
Posted by OldCat55
Member since Apr 2021
645 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 5:13 pm to
Will definitely give it a try
Posted by cuyahoga tiger
NE Ohio via Tangipahoa
Member since Nov 2011
5845 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 5:56 pm to
Thats a perfectly dressed dog. chilli, onion, shredded cheddar, yellow mustard...well done sir.
Posted by Professor Dawghair
Member since Oct 2021
1089 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

Thats a perfectly dressed dog


Thanks sir. That’s the way I like them. Sometimes I add some chopped jalapeños. Nice color and flavor.

There are some pool rooms and diners in GA that sell what they call a scrambled dog. It’s not really scrambled, just chili poured all over so you have to eat it with knife and fork.

The Scrambled Dog Story
This post was edited on 10/25/22 at 5:52 am
Posted by Treacherous Cretin
Columbus, OH
Member since Jan 2016
1503 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 7:06 pm to
Personally I like to put the mustard and onions on the dogs before adding chili and cheese. Then I’ll shake hot sauce on top of that.

This may sound like heresy but you can get a really fine grain to your ground beef if you cook it in water instead of browning it first. You’d sauté your onions and garlic, add tomato paste to cook it a little bit, stir in your other spices to let them bloom, mix in the water, then add the ground beef. Then you can use a slotted spatula or spoon to mash up the ground beef as it cooks. Let the sauce reduce until it gets to the consistency you’re looking for.

When you brown the ground beef in a dry pan, the Maillard reaction creates a crusty exterior to the little clumps of ground beef and it makes them harder to break up real fine. That’s why you can get a finer grain cooking it in water and since it’s going to be covered in chili sauce anyway, the browning doesn’t really make a difference. It sounds counterintuitive but it really works.
This post was edited on 10/25/22 at 11:13 am
Posted by Professor Dawghair
Member since Oct 2021
1089 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

It sounds counterintuitive but it really works.


That’s interesting and makes sense. The boil is an important part of it.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28571 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

whole garlic.

So you just leave it whole?
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28571 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 8:36 pm to
That looks great. Rlatively low on the carbs?
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28571 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 8:38 pm to
I get really fixated on getting my ground beef as fine as possible for a lot of dishes. I will have to try this.
Posted by Springlake Tiger
Uptown
Member since Aug 2006
15531 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 8:41 pm to
For a hotdog make from animal scraps? Just warm up some hormel chili with no beans and top with shredded cheddar.
Posted by Professor Dawghair
Member since Oct 2021
1089 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

So you just leave it whole?


Yes. I used to use chopped garlic, but I didn’t like the way it looked. Nothing to do with flavor but chopped garlic, even fine, tends to hold it’s shape and it shows up in the end.

This is probably obsessive, and I doubt it affects the flavor at all, but I want it to be smooth and almost entirely meat. That’s why I chop the onions as small as possible so they almost dissolve.

You could do more than four cloves easily. Heck 20 might be good.
This post was edited on 10/24/22 at 9:08 pm
Posted by Professor Dawghair
Member since Oct 2021
1089 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

Rlatively low on the carbs?


Has to be low Carb I would think.

I guess the two tablespoons of tomato paste has some but that’s it.

Even though it’s really a sauce, I ate a small bowl full the last batch I made and I liked it that way too.
Posted by LoneStarRanger
Texas/Europe
Member since Aug 2018
2404 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:57 pm to
Fun fact, hot dog chili was invented by a Greek. So was pineapple pizza.
Posted by Professor Dawghair
Member since Oct 2021
1089 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

hot dog chili was invented by a Greek


Not surprised by that. Greeks know how to produce diner food.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6547 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 10:28 pm to
To get that perfect hot dog chili fine grain beef, you need to boil the ground beef in water, then drain well and start seasoning it up.
Posted by Professor Dawghair
Member since Oct 2021
1089 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 10:49 pm to
quote:

then drain well


Agree with the boil but need convincing on the drain well. Can’t see throwing flavor away.

But I’ve tweaked many times over the decades so I have an open mind. And even failed experiments usually taste good.
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