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re: Homebrewing Thread: Volume II
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:25 am to BMoney
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:25 am to BMoney
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I hate dealing with dropping DME in boiling water and worrying about a boil over on the stove, then chilling and pitching yeast.
I dump the DME a few degrees before boiling and stir with a whisk. Add a drop or 2 of fermcaps and no boilover.
And to my secret admirer, get a life, loser.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 10:26 am
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Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:46 am to MountainTiger
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I add the DME at the beginning and then bring it to a boil.
Either way, you're spending time boiling water and DME then chilling. The $2.50 per can I spent on Fast Pitch is well worth my time so I don't have to do all that.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:07 am to BMoney
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Either way, you're spending time boiling water and DME then chilling. The $2.50 per can I spent on Fast Pitch is well worth my time so I don't have to do all that.
Yeah I don't disagree. Like I said earlier, I used to make up 3 gallon batches of starter wort but now that I'm doing 10 gallon batches, it's not worth it to me anymore because I only get 3 brew sessions tops out of a batch of starter wort.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:14 am to BMoney
yea but is it worth it whan you are making a 5L starter for a 10 gallon batch with old yeast?
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:15 am to BugAC
quote:we both have one....i believe it is one of the politard losers.
And to my secret admirer, get a life, loser.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:17 am to CarRamrod
quote:
what happened?
It just wasn't fermenting like I expected. After consulting you guys, I got more yeast, and made a starter. Hoping to get my gravity down much lower. Was at 1.036 after 2 weeks of fermentation
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:22 am to BMoney
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I hate dealing with dropping DME in boiling water and worrying about a boil over on the stove
Uh yeah, on my first attempt I can confirm you were not joking.
Question now. Since I don't have a stir plate, do I just swish it around as frequently as I can, or do I let it sit and ferment?
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:32 am to GeauxPack81
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Question now. Since I don't have a stir plate, do I just swish it around as frequently as I can, or do I let it sit and ferment?
Swish it around. Also don't seal it off completely from the air. The yeast need oxygen to propagate and swirling/splashing helps dissolve more oxygen into the wort.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:35 am to GeauxPack81
quote:oohh i remember reading that post.
It just wasn't fermenting like I expected. After consulting you guys, I got more yeast, and made a starter. Hoping to get my gravity down much lower. Was at 1.036 after 2 weeks of fermentation
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:37 am to BMoney
quote:
Either way, you're spending time boiling water and DME then chilling. The $2.50 per can I spent on Fast Pitch is well worth my time so I don't have to do all that.
Don't you have to boil water to add to the fastpitch slurry?
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:43 am to GeauxPack81
quote:yea in most yeast calcs you have the options of the Method of aeration (growth charts) it uses.
Question now. Since I don't have a stir plate, do I just swish it around as frequently as I can, or do I let it sit and ferment?
1. none (C.White)
2. Intermittent shaking (J. Zainasheff)
3. Stir Plate (J. Zainasheff)
4. Stir Plate (K. Troester)
I used yeastcalculator.com for the longest time before i just started using BeerSmith. IDK what growth chart BS uses though.
out of all my research i have read i have come to the conclusion that Troester is the best one to use even though it is less conservative that the Zainasheff. I read that the Zainasheff method was all based on very conservative calculations and the Troester was based off of lab experiments.
as far as stir plates there are some cheap ones out there and some neat DIY builds with a computer fan and a cigar box. look into it would be a small, cheap project. or you can buy a premade one.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:43 am to BugAC
quote:yea i was reading that you had to add water. but it didnt say anything about sterilizing the water.
Don't you have to boil water to add to the fastpitch slurry?
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:08 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
yea i was reading that you had to add water. but it didnt say anything about sterilizing the water.
I'd assume with anything they advise you to boil the water to sterilize it, to reduce the risk of infection. I've looked at those cans before and thought about it, but i figured i wasn't saving myself much time whether i boil water and add DME or boil water and add a slurry to it. Plus i don't have to worry about shipping a malt slurry, and hoping the weather isn't hot out.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 12/13/18 at 1:21 pm to BugAC
quote:
Don't you have to boil water to add to the fastpitch slurry?
No, just add a 16oz bottle of water.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 2:11 pm to BMoney
how sterile is bottle water? it is no more sterile than tap water. and less sterile than fresh RO water.
im not saying you are wrong, im jus ttrying to figre out if i can just add 16 OZ of RO water and have a starter made in minutes.
im not saying you are wrong, im jus ttrying to figre out if i can just add 16 OZ of RO water and have a starter made in minutes.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 12/13/18 at 3:25 pm to CarRamrod
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how sterile is bottle water? it is no more sterile than tap water. and less sterile than fresh RO water.
The next infection in my yeast starter from using bottled water will be my first.
RO water should be just fine if you have that ability.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 5:38 pm to BMoney
I use tap water, add DME and boil for 15 mins. Kinda sucks watching it for boil over, but it’s not a big deal.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 6:15 pm to Bro Dad
I use dry yeast. frick a starter. 
That's a lie, most of my ales I use liquid yeast, but all my lagers are either 34/70 or S23. 34/70 for my pilsners and S23 for the amber lagers.
That's a lie, most of my ales I use liquid yeast, but all my lagers are either 34/70 or S23. 34/70 for my pilsners and S23 for the amber lagers.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:14 pm to BottomlandBrew
I use dry yeast whenever possible now too. I hate fooling with starters
Posted on 12/14/18 at 12:55 am to BottomlandBrew
so im a liittle drunk and have been planning my upgrade to a semi automated electric brewery. And im realizing how i really hate brewing 5 gallon batches because of all the work involved for little return.........
So now i want to build an electric BIAB single vessel system for 5 gallon batches........ im not looking to spend a lot of money for a premade system. I want to get one of those concord pots (40qt or 50qt) putting a triclover heating element, false bottom and building a simple controller to do stepped mashes.
only thing would be is i would want a steel meshbasket for the grain instead of using the disposable bags.
and ideas or words of advice?
So now i want to build an electric BIAB single vessel system for 5 gallon batches........ im not looking to spend a lot of money for a premade system. I want to get one of those concord pots (40qt or 50qt) putting a triclover heating element, false bottom and building a simple controller to do stepped mashes.
only thing would be is i would want a steel meshbasket for the grain instead of using the disposable bags.
and ideas or words of advice?
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