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Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:05 am to
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:05 am to
do you find the pressure helps develop the brett character?
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:47 am to
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Be prepared to leave it alone and let the brett do its thing


What do you mean by this? i was going to use Gigayeast brett brux blend. States that at 1.062 fg @ 71 degrees for 15 days it will attenuate fully. That was the plan, and then keg it.
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 11:48 am
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:48 am to
I've heard that argument, but I don't have any side-by-side experience to say yay or nay. I've heard some well respected pros preach it, and I've heard other well respected pros say it's a myth. On a genus level, brett is an extremely diverse group, so I'd imagine there are some that get pretty funky in high-pressure CO2 environments, and others that don't.

I don't know what strain(s) was in my beer as it was one of those cross contamination issues I got had a while back before splitting up my equipment. The beer formed a pellicle shortly after removing my dry hops, so I'm guessing some brett came through on the hop bag that I had used in some previous batches.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:52 am to
quote:


What do you mean by this? i was going to use Gigayeast brett brux blend. States that at 1.062 fg @ 71 degrees for 15 days it will attenuate fully. That was the plan, and then keg it.


sure, it will ferment it down, but it takes time to develop brett character
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:05 pm to
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sure, it will ferment it down, but it takes time to develop brett character


Oh, I was assuming it imparted the flavor as well. Was hoping to have a relatively quick turnover brett pale ale.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

Was hoping to have a relatively quick turnover brett pale ale.


it's been my experience that relatively quick with brett is several months
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:14 pm to
You can do 100% brett pale ale in a few weeks.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:22 pm to
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You can do 100% brett pale ale in a few weeks.


is there a way to "force the issue" with getting the funk you are looking for when using brett? the brett pale ale I made went a couple months before I dry-hopped and kegged it, but it didn't have a lot of what I would consider brett character.

maybe pitch a big starter? manipulate the fermentation temps? use specific strains?
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 12:24 pm
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:31 pm to
You're not going to get a lot of funk with 100% brett. You need the byproducts of a sacch fermentation for brett to produce funk.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:36 pm to
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second brew on the brew boss


Still happy with the purchase? I eyed it again with my tax return, but talked myself out of it.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:45 pm to
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You're not going to get a lot of funk with 100% brett. You need the byproducts of a sacch fermentation for brett to produce funk.




Thanks
Posted by I_heart_beer
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Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 1:05 pm to
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Still happy with the purchase? I eyed it again with my tax return, but talked myself out of it.


Definitely still enjoying it, and don't regret the purchase at all. I'm really liking the simplicity, seems to make the whole brew day more enjoyable. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to anyone.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 1:27 pm to
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You're not going to get a lot of funk with 100% brett. You need the byproducts of a sacch fermentation for brett to produce funk.




Well i'm looking for a more of a smooth subdued funk like in Oceans.

My plan, is to use gigayeast brett brux blend and pitch. Let it ferment out for about 3 weeks to a month then add my dry hops then keg after 5 days.

Was initially planning an aroma hop dose of cascade at 5 minutes, then whirlpool and dry hop with citra, however, i'm getting more interested in nelson sauvin.
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 1:31 pm
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 1:34 pm to
Sounds like a good plan.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:33 pm to
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You're not going to get a lot of funk with 100% brett. You need the byproducts of a sacch fermentation for brett to produce funk


You mean that band-aid (oh, wait, did B just hijack my account )

I prefer straight Brett fermentation or mixed fermentation vs. adding Brett after sach has done it's thing.
Posted by Canuck Tiger
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:00 am to
I had really good results copitching us-05 and Brett bottle dregs from a couple 750ml boulevard saison Brett (I believe they use claussini). First beer was a DIPA that had a moderate Brett fruitiness and played really well with the hops. I repitched a cider on that cake with a lb of light dme to give the Brett something to chew on besides sugars, and it finished with a ton of Brett character. In fact it was too strong at first and I had to backsweeten more than I usually do. I took notes that "apple juice plus us-05 lacks the compounds needed to make fruity phenols and esters; maybe try a Belgian yeast for or don't reuse cakes for them"
Posted by Canuck Tiger
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:53 pm to
I checked my Tripel today and it somehow went from 1.075 to 1.004 (94% attenuation). It's a little boozy (it's only been fermenting for 7 days) but has a nice fruity ester profile. Gonna rack it to a keg and let it sit there for a couple months to mellow and meld and clean up and I think it's going to be a good one.
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:21 pm to
Pro tip: when using raspberries in a beer, filter the beer before kegging. Ask me how I know.

Just spent an hour getting 3 12oz bottles filled from the keg.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:26 am to
My last sour project has gone off the deep end and I am confident will never result in anything drinkable. If y'all remember I brewed a simple beer with no hops, tossed in Gigayeast Lacto after brewing, then added a Brett starter a few days later. No drop in OG after 3 weeks. Beer was getting really tart from the lacto, so pitched slurry of Cal Ale. Well 2 weeks later still basically no change in gravity, dropped .002 points. Beer is abrasively tart now, another few days and it will be undrinkable even by the sourest fans.
Posted by Canuck Tiger
Member since Sep 2010
1763 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:11 am to
Have you checked your hydrometer vs water to make sure it isn't cracked?

Usually lacto can't make a beer too sour for Brett or acid tolerant sacch to ferment; it kills itself at that point too...

Any way to measure pH?
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