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Posted on 2/6/15 at 11:34 am to
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 2/6/15 at 11:34 am to
My Brett tripel accidentally got cold on me last night. In previous experiences, does Brett rebound from being chilled down for a little while or is time to bottle?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 2/6/15 at 11:54 am to
It wakes up.
Posted by rds dc
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Posted on 2/6/15 at 8:53 pm to
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both 'American Sours' and 'Wild Brews' have a ton of information and are excellent resources for non-saccharomyces brewing


I highly recommend reading both of those. I don't do anything that isn't covered in one of those two books. The biggest thing is just being willing to tie up fermentors for long periods of time. I've got 35 gallons dedicated to sours and 7.5 gallons dedicated to faster turnover brews.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 2/7/15 at 10:57 pm to
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I don't do anything that isn't covered in one of those two books.


I saw you with that Pediocockus......I dont think that was in the book.
Posted by rds dc
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Posted on 2/8/15 at 9:27 am to
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I saw you with that Pediocockus......I dont think that was in the book.


Hey! Don't go telling people that!

Well this will be interesting... I have a grapefruit brett ale fermenting in the garage and my heating system went haywire and it got up to 100 F! It was a super cheap brew, probably less than $15 for the whole 6 gallons. It smells fine but not sure if it's worth holding or if I should dump it?
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 2/8/15 at 10:06 am to
Just ferment as normal, bottle and ship it all to me. I'll take care of it.

Question: so I'm splitting my batch in 2 3 gallon fermenters. The problem, is that one fermenter will have plenty of headspace. I don't want my brew to be oxidized, and that half will be racked onto blood oranges. Will the sugar in the blood oranges ferment enough to push out any O2 left in the fermenter, or shoul I add a little honey or turbinado to kick start a secondary fermentation to ensure that headspace of O2 becomes co2?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:09 pm to
Checked in on a couple beers this morning. The kriek is going fine. Crystal clear with a slight pink hue and a fruity sourness developing.

The biere de garde/cabernet sauvignon is struggling to ferment. It's pushing over 10% ABV and it's a pretty acidic environment, so it's slow going. If all goes well, it will end up around 11.5%. I'm not sure how brett, lacto, and pedio do in those sorts of environments, so we'll see. I know my sacch is probably gone. I may keep throwing dregs at it to boost the biodiversity and see if something can survive in there. If all else fails, I might be looking at a wine or champagne yeast to try and get the last few points.
Posted by LSUGrad00
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:03 pm to
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should I add a little honey or turbinado to kick start a secondary fermentation to ensure that headspace of O2 becomes co2?


You shouldn't have to do anything, after transferring onto the fruit the yeast will produce enough CO2 to prevent oxidation.

I think oxidation is another one of those things that homebrewers worry too much about.

Most examples of oxidation in homebrew that I've seen were a direct result of errors in handling/bottling the beer or a beer that wasn't bottled properly and aged for a significant period of time.




Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:44 pm to
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I think oxidation is another one of those things that homebrewers worry too much about.


"Headspace"
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:51 pm to
and, i missed the registration for the National Homebrewers Competition....
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 4:00 pm to
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I think oxidation is another one of those things that homebrewers worry too much about.

Most examples of oxidation in homebrew that I've seen were a direct result of errors in handling/bottling the beer or a beer that wasn't bottled properly and aged for a significant period of time.

I don't know. Based on my experience judging beer comps, they don't worry about it enough.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:34 pm to
Secondaried my saison. The left was racked onto a small amount of french oak chips, about 4 oz. the right was racked onto 1.5 lbs of blood oranges. Sucked up a good bit of yeast from primary in the second one.

This post was edited on 2/10/15 at 7:05 am
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 10:03 pm to
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Secondaried my saison. The left was tacked onto a small amount of french oak chips, about 4 oz. the right was racked onto 1.5 lbs of blood oranges. Sucked up a good bit of yeast from primary in the second one.


Looks good! Where is the gravity at this point?
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:34 pm to
1.008

Definitely seeing some bubbles in the airlock on the blood orange one. Not as many of any on the oak.
This post was edited on 2/10/15 at 7:25 am
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 7:13 am to
I'd drink it.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 7:26 am to
And for Bug's brew "panic" of the month, i noticed a sound coming from the racking cane. It sounded like maybe some air was being picked up as it was transferring wort. I hope i didn't oxidize (this seems to be my worry of the month) the brew. I need a new racking cane. Anyway, i know, DWRHAH.

I did taste the wort and it is outstanding. The fresh blood orange peel stands out much more than the dried grapefruit peel i used last year. It is sitting at just under 7%. Hoping the secondary for a couple weeks pushes it down to .006/.005
This post was edited on 2/10/15 at 7:28 am
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 7:36 am to
quote:

And for Bug's brew "panic" of the month, i noticed a sound coming from the racking cane. It sounded like maybe some air was being picked up as it was transferring wort. I hope i didn't oxidize (this seems to be my worry of the month) the brew. I need a new racking cane. Anyway, i know, DWRHAH.



Morebeer's Sterile Siphon Starter is a good one. I'm sure LAH sells an equivalent.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 2/11/15 at 7:57 am to
I don't think it's wort anymore.

and I think you worry too much
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21446 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 8:50 am to
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I have a grapefruit brett ale fermenting in the garage and my heating system went haywire and it got up to 100 F!


Update on this, I left this in the garage to cool down but never saw anymore air lock activity. I thought about taking a gravity reading but decided it wasn't worth the cleaning since Brett never goes completely still like that. So I took the hop & yeast slurry from the secondary that I had my Brett pale ale in and dumped that into the grapefruit ale. Now the air lock is bubbling along this morning, so maybe this brew can be salvaged?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/11/15 at 9:47 am to
quote:

And for Bug's brew "panic" of the month, i noticed a sound coming from the racking cane. It sounded like maybe some air was being picked up as it was transferring wort. I hope i didn't oxidize (this seems to be my worry of the month) the brew. I need a new racking cane. Anyway, i know, DWRHAH.


This is a legitimate BugAC Worry. Maybe not full panic. My autosiphons have had this problem before. It can indeed oxidize your beer if you're not paying attention. It happened with one of my wines one time. Had to dump 6 gallons of wine. I solved this problem by pouring some water down in the top of the autosiphon. That way it only sucks up water and not air.
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