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Posted on 8/9/14 at 5:38 pm to
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 5:38 pm to
Question about the sour saison... Did you mash hotter so it wouldn't dry out as much to balance our the sour, or do the bugs eat the more complex sugars, or both?

I still haven't started reading the sours book
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 6:13 pm to
I mashed higher to give the bacteria something to work with. Give them a few more complex carbohydrates to work with after the sacch is done doing its thing.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

Does it taste like death or like beer?


Still taste mostly of sweet wort. Nothing offensive. Went ahead and pitched my bugs. I am just now getting the westmalle yeast from a couple bottles of homebrew dubbel to start kicking in the starter. I will pitch that tomorrow.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 7:37 pm to
You pitching both at the same time or pitching sacch first and bacteria later?
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 7:57 pm to
Looks like Zappa Dust Tres will turn out awright. Tasted a sample and all is well. Gravity is only down to 1.016 which is a bit high and probably due to my accidental high mash temps. But I don't taste any sweetness. Added some citra and cascade dry hops to the carboy.

Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:01 am to
This mix is blended, so both at the same time.

Posted by TomSpanks
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 8:18 pm to
Just got into homebrewing 3 weeks ago or so. I've made 2 extract batches and have already started stocking up on all grain equipment to give that a shot
I didn't order a kit, but instead did a ton of reading and ordered my version of a starter kit. I went with the plastic big mouth bubblers for my fermenters. I initially got 2 5 gallon and 1 6.5 gallon, already wishing I had gotten nothing but 6.5 gallons. Also went ahead and got a kegging set up with 2 kegs, a regulator, and splitter, etc. I have acquired a fridge/freezer that I plan to use as my fermentation chamber and a stand up freezer that I plan to make into a keezer with 4 taps.
First order:



I made a DIY stir plate and went with a yeast starter for my first brew:



First Brew (Midwest Supplies Gold Dust IPA):



Got a STC-1000 for my temp controller for my fermentation fridge, wired it up and it's been working great:



First brew fermenting at a cool 67 degrees:



Second brew (Midwest Supplies Kiwi Crossing IPA):







My order for stuff to complete my kegerator, stainless shanks (Perlick faucets, accu-flex tubing and quick connect fittings on the way), and stuff to attempt my first all grain brew (a Pliny the Elder clone):



Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:27 pm to
Damn dude. Looks like you're off to a great start. How's the beer turning out?
Posted by TomSpanks
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:37 pm to
My hydrometer samples have been very good, even shared them with a few other people who were kind of thrown off at first, tasting a flat, warm beer for the first time, but they all said it was tasty. I cold crashed my first brew last night and plan to keg it tomorrow and carb it up for a few days and see how it is. Can't wait!
And I do have a habit of jumping in feet first when I do things. I love beer and have wanted to try out homebrewing for a while and finally figured I had read up enough to pull the trigger. I'm hoping everything turns out ok.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 9:40 pm
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:59 pm to
I'm sure it'll fine really.

FYI you can technically go from kegging it to drinking it within a few hours if you're anxious.

Cold crash down to 30s or 40s and keg it. Hook the gas up at around 30 psi or so and rock it on its side with the gas valve up back and forth for a minute or two. You'll hear the co2 going through the regulator the whole time.

Let it sit for an hour or so and it should be carbonated enough.
Not the standard way of doing things but it seems like you've put a lot of time into it already if your really wanting to try a pour sooner rather than later.
Posted by TomSpanks
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 10:07 pm to
I'm definitely going to try and gently force carb, if that's possible :). I'm going to keg it already cold and try a 30 psi force carb with some gentle shaking and then letting it sit for a while at 12 psi, obviously tasting along the way to see if it's good. I have some friends coming over Saturday and I'm hoping it'll be nice and smooth by then. I do still have to turn my upright freezer into a kegerator before then too.
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 10:23 pm to
Like I said. You sound like you're off to a good start. Some people need to ask what all the bubbles are on top of the beer to know that it's fermenting their first time. I'm sure it'll be pretty tasty for your first brew.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 10:54 pm to
You certainly know how to do you research before jumping into something. I went in not knowing a thing other than what the one page directions that came with my kit told me. Suffice to say I made some really sub par beers at the onset.

Kegged up a brett pale ale tonight. The fermenter smelled all kinds of weird, but it tastes great and smells a lot better now that it's out of the bucket. Also got a starter going with some brett I got from rds. I think it's a crooked stave strain. Whatever it is, it was awesome in rds beer I drank the other day. That was an amazing beer.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:23 am to
quote:

Also got a starter going with some brett I got from rds. I think it's a crooked stave strain. Whatever it is, it was awesome in rds beer I drank the other day. That was an amazing beer.


I don't know what he uses in it, but I agree that the beer is fantastic. I would make that my "house" pale ale in a heartbeat, as opposed to the one I have on tap now that just keeps going and going and going

I went upstairs to check on my saison this morning and there is still some airlock activity, after 9 days. I want to draw a sample to check the gravity and taste, but doing that from a bucket is a pain in the arse. Will probably move the bucket downstairs tonight and it will stay around 75 for a couple more weeks.
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 8:35 am
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:17 am to
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Just got into homebrewing 3 weeks ago or so


DAMN! This takes going ALL IN to a whole new level.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:29 am to
tell me more about this DIY stir plate.
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:46 am to
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tell me more about this DIY stir plate.



Probably the taking a computer fan and wiring it to run attached to a box with some magnets on the fan.

Takes just a little bit of wiring knowledge as far as I know.

I don't have any of that though.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:50 am to
one of the magazines I have at home have instructions for making one, but I don't remember the specifics or costs, and I'm curious as to just how much I would save to know if it would be worth it
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:07 am to
Northern brewer just sent an email about their stir plate and free 2000 ml flask. Might be worth it or a good time to buy.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:38 am to
quote:

tell me more about this DIY stir plate


I built one a few years back.

I had ZERO clue what I was doing and not a lick of wiring experience and it was fairly easy to assemble once you have all the parts.

If I didn't already have most of the parts on hand I probably would have just purchase one instead.

This is pretty much what I built, but I used a larger box so I could use a 5L flask.
LINK

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